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 Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:14 pm
ÉN verekszik részére Isten , országom és családomIs there a punishment for rape in Islam?
If so, what is it, and what Qu'ranic verse is it?
...kit ugye verekszik részére?
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:43 pm
ÉN verekszik részére Isten , országom és családom...kit ugye verekszik részére?
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:58 am
Ratri_Cat ÉN verekszik részére Isten , országom és családom...kit ugye verekszik részére? Oh goodness, I hope not. That's terrifying.
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:20 am
Ratri_Cat ÉN verekszik részére Isten , országom és családom...kit ugye verekszik részére?
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:00 am
there aint no such thing as that being justified in islam!!!
well rape is under adultery and it is worst than that
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:31 pm
Ratri_Cat ÉN verekszik részére Isten , országom és családom...kit ugye verekszik részére? It's not justified to Rape at all under any circumstances, Because this physically harms another without A Just Reason. The article you posted points that it's a woman's responsibility to cover up did it not? I agree that females who don't cover up have a much higher chance of getting raped than females wearing hijabs. Muslims are supposed to have self restraint of desires and the like, not head right into rape, A "Muslim" raping anyone seems to be rare unless the community doesn't act Islamic at all, Oh lookie I just pointed to most of the "Muslim" Countries we have that have crime, Poverty, and no true muslims except for a rare few.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:47 pm
Haydar the Truthful It's not justified to Rape at all under any circumstances, Because this physically harms another without A Just Reason. The article you posted points that it's a woman's responsibility to cover up did it not? I agree that females who don't cover up have a much higher chance of getting raped than females wearing hijabs. The Muslim guy said that, not the writer of the article. Studies have shown that rape is a DOMINANCE thing, not a lust. It doesn't matter if you're wearing a hijab or not. Myths about rapeAnd if that's the case, then Muslim women shouldn't be on the rape list... Haydar the Truthful Muslims are supposed to have self restraint of desires and the like, not head right into rape, A "Muslim" raping anyone seems to be rare unless the community doesn't act Islamic at all, Oh lookie I just pointed to most of the "Muslim" Countries we have that have crime, Poverty, and no true muslims except for a rare few. So places like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and many other countries in the middle east would fit that. You have that same old Middle-Ages concept with much of the country's wealth in a few people's hands. Most of the time when you get that country's statistics, you get a much lower rate of rape than when a third party comes in and surveys.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:26 pm
Excuse me for not reading the entire second link you provided, Seems like a really long article, And I actually have to be going anyway so I don't have time for it. The Qur'an already condemns Rape so any Country that has Muslims raping others and making it "Just" are obviously just forging lies against their own religion. Much like Bin Ladin and his followers or Saudi Arabia in how they oppress persons either publicly or in private. Ratri_Cat So places like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and many other countries in the middle east would fit that. You have that same old Middle-Ages concept with much of the country's wealth in a few people's hands. Most of the time when you get that country's statistics, you get a much lower rate of rape than when a third party comes in and surveys. Well as far as I know, Rape is a pretty big issue here in the U.S as well, And yes I'm sticking by the idea that the Government shows the rest of the world how that country is, While that may not be how the people are.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:45 pm
Haydar the Truthful Excuse me for not reading the entire second link you provided, Seems like a really long article, And I actually have to be going anyway so I don't have time for it. The Qur'an already condemns Rape so any Country that has Muslims raping others and making it "Just" are obviously just forging lies against their own religion. Much like Bin Ladin and his followers or Saudi Arabia in how they oppress persons either publicly or in private. Ratri_Cat So places like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and many other countries in the middle east would fit that. You have that same old Middle-Ages concept with much of the country's wealth in a few people's hands. Most of the time when you get that country's statistics, you get a much lower rate of rape than when a third party comes in and surveys. Well as far as I know, Rape is a pretty big issue here in the U.S as well, And yes I'm sticking by the idea that the Government shows the rest of the world how that country is, While that may not be how the people are.
My point was that no matter how clothed you are (or lack thereof) you can be raped. Rape is about dominance, not about lust.
I know. I can speak for it personally.
...kit ugye verekszik részére?
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:47 am
Ratri_Cat Haydar the Truthful Excuse me for not reading the entire second link you provided, Seems like a really long article, And I actually have to be going anyway so I don't have time for it. The Qur'an already condemns Rape so any Country that has Muslims raping others and making it "Just" are obviously just forging lies against their own religion. Much like Bin Ladin and his followers or Saudi Arabia in how they oppress persons either publicly or in private. Ratri_Cat So places like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and many other countries in the middle east would fit that. You have that same old Middle-Ages concept with much of the country's wealth in a few people's hands. Most of the time when you get that country's statistics, you get a much lower rate of rape than when a third party comes in and surveys. Well as far as I know, Rape is a pretty big issue here in the U.S as well, And yes I'm sticking by the idea that the Government shows the rest of the world how that country is, While that may not be how the people are.
My point was that no matter how clothed you are (or lack thereof) you can be raped. Rape is about dominance, not about lust.
I know. I can speak for it personally.
...kit ugye verekszik részére? its is LUST the lust of your own self that you rape other not her lust of you being raped... here by you i do not mean literary your! XD
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:52 am
tassan its is LUST the lust of your own self that you rape other not her lust of you being raped... here by you i do not mean literary your! XD
No, tassan, it's been proven again that rape is done out of dominance. Not out of lust for the other.
And I am living proof of that.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:58 am
Ratri_Cat tassan its is LUST the lust of your own self that you rape other not her lust of you being raped... here by you i do not mean literary your! XD
No, tassan, it's been proven again that rape is done out of dominance. Not out of lust for the other.
And I am living proof of that. its LUST the lust of your own self that you rape other not her lust of her being raped... rolleyes sweatdrop sorry
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:25 am
tassan Ratri_Cat tassan its is LUST the lust of your own self that you rape other not her lust of you being raped... here by you i do not mean literary your! XD
No, tassan, it's been proven again that rape is done out of dominance. Not out of lust for the other.
And I am living proof of that. its LUST the lust of your own self that you rape other not her lust of her being raped... rolleyes sweatdrop sorry
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:51 pm
Ratri_Cat tassan its is LUST the lust of your own self that you rape other not her lust of you being raped... here by you i do not mean literary your! XD
No, tassan, it's been proven again that rape is done out of dominance. Not out of lust for the other.
And I am living proof of that. So by living proof you mean you've been raped before? Anyway even if it was for dominance, Lust is still a major factor to do it in the first place.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:37 pm
Haydar the Truthful So by living proof you mean you've been raped before? Haydar the Truthful Anyway even if it was for dominance, Lust is still a major factor to do it in the first place.
It doesn't matter whether the victim is female, male, young, or older. It doesn't matter the racial background, it doesn't matter the religion. LUST HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RAPE.
I demand that you provide adequate proof that lust is a major part of rape.
Studies have shown again and again it is PURELY DOMINANCE.
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