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ArmasTermin

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:17 pm
Yeah, it's long, read it anyway.




"Date: 10/12/2008 7:37:54 PM

Subject: Secret Service in Lufkin, TX



(Newspaper story of this incident below this letter)



On Wednesday the 1st of October I received a call on my cell while in the car with my husband. It was a woman who identified herself as calling from the Obama Campaign. The phone # she called from was 903-798-6020 which lists as 'Obama Volunteers of Texarkana ' (Texas). http://www.yellowpages.com/phone/903-798-6020


She asked if I was an Obama supporter to which I replied: 'No, I don't support him, your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the State Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time.' I hung up.

Thursday, October 2, I answered the front door to find the Secret Service. Immediately I thought of the call and was furious that apparently you are not allowed to call Obama a Socialist without the Secret Service coming to investigate. Instead, they asked me about the following comment, relayed by the Obama Volunteer of Texarkana who called me, unsolicited on my cell phone: 'I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor.'

My husband laughed and told them, 'No, she called him a socialist but she never said a word about him dying.' I gave them my actual quote. The woman asked insolently, 'Oh? Well why would she make that up?'

I replied that I supposed she wasn't happy about what I said about her candidate and the Agent said, 'That's right, you were rude!' The last time I checked being rude wasn't a crime in America.

Luckily the big file they had gathered on me didn't indicate mental instability or a past life of stalking/crime, however they did want to know how I felt about Obama. That was my limit. I told the Agent in no uncertain terms that my thoughts were not pertinent to their investigation, that this was America and the last time I checked I was allowed to think whatever I wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. In fact, even if I had said what she claimed, that isn't a threat. I told them (again) and my husband verified that the statement reported by Obama's volunteer was a lie. I asked them if there was a tape of the call and they said no. I said, 'So on the word of a ticked off Obama supporter you are on my porch with no other evidence and you want to question me about my THOUGHTS!?'

They informed me that there was no evidence she was an Obama supporter; someone calling from his campaign are you kidding?

I was not allowed to know the name of my accuser at which point they informed me that it wasn't like I was in a court of law, YET, as if this was a good thing. I recognized this as a veiled threat. I told them I would happily go to court since I did nothing wrong and at least then my accuser would have to face me rather than sending the thought police to my house.

They then said they were trying to do me a favor, that they came to me first before embarrassing you by going to all your neighbors and family, another threat? I told them to be my guest and talk to whomever they wanted, but they weren't going to investigate my thoughts on my porch.

They also informed me that it would be easier if the next time a supporter calls me I just say 'Yeah sure count me in, or just hang up' apparently so she won't get her undies in a bundle and give them more useless trips. Yeah right. I said 'Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate and I can't tell them why I don't?' I said I was sorry they made a wasted trip, but if they had a problem with some made up lie they needed to go talk to her about it because it wasn't my fault they had to drive from Houston for nothing.

At one point I went inside and got a notepad to record their badge numbers and they refused to show me their badges. They had done the quick flip when they arrived. I asked for a card and the female Agent refused to give me one stating, 'You're not going to get a card.' The male Agent gave me a card and told me I could contact Houston with any questions.

The fact that the volunteer lied, the fact that the Secret Service came to my house to question me about my thoughts and feelings, and threaten to embarrass me to my neighbors, and go to court if I didn't cooperate is not really the tragedy here. Because that girl on the phone doesn't have the pull to send the Secret Service to my home. Someone high in the ranks of a campaign working for a man who may be the next President of the United States of America felt comfortable bringing the force of the Federal Government to bear on a private citizen on nothing but the word of a partisan volunteer.

I wanted to file a counter complaint that false charges were made, that a false report was given to a peace officer. The Secret Service told me I cannot because they will protect the identity of the complainant. I also want the file they have on me destroyed and I want to know that my phone isn't tapped, etcetera. I am hearing a lot of 'Out of my Jurisdiction'.

Do I also hear jackboots?

Jessica Hughes

Lufkin, Texas

This was the headline story in our local newspaper yesterday here in Lufkin .

click below to read Lufkin news---

http://www.lufkindailynews.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/10/07/secret_service.html?imw=Y "

Sigh...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:42 pm
Seems as though everything I learned about rights and the government in school was for naught.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:41 pm
Ah obama. A true patriot. Smashing your fredomes one phonecall at a time.  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:33 pm
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We're really ******** now.


Also, I'm sure they record those messages on their end.
It wouldn't be too bad of an idea to make a recording or your end too.

That is if you're going to say, "president/vice president/future president" and the word, "die" in the same sentence, or breath rather.

Since these are the same people who think a comma denotes the whole 2nd amendment deal, they'll use the whole thing out of context to ******** up your life.

I'm pretty sure her and the husband are going to be 'picked at random' for a security check at airports and the like until they're dead.
Then they'll check the next of kin too.  

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:57 pm
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:07 pm
Words cannot describe my feelings about that level of stupidity, so here's a bunch of anime facepalms instead.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:29 pm
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:39 pm
Part of me wants to say it must have just been some mega Obama supporter that got pissed that someone could say bad things about her guy. And that she lied about a threat to him in order to call in the goons. And that if the goons heard a threat about any political official they'd get into attack mode. And that's what happened. And that it's not about Obama being leader of JBTs, just that the same would happen for any Presidential hopeful in the situation.

But the other part of me is reasonable. xd  

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:51 pm
ArmasTermin
Part of me wants to say it must have just been some mega Obama supporter that got pissed that someone could say bad things about her guy. And that she lied about a threat to him in order to call in the goons. And that if the goons heard a threat about any political official they'd get into attack mode. And that's what happened. And that it's not about Obama being leader of JBTs, just that the same would happen for any Presidential hopeful in the situation.

But the other part of me is reasonable. xd



And to expect that to do such an investigation as to go to someone's front door without physical evidence is reasonable?  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:19 pm
As soon as I finish writing this, I'm going to go online and find the general help/tip lines for the Secret Service, the FBI, the CIA, the ATF, and any other jackboot organization I can think of, save them on my cell phone, and if this bullshit ever happens to me, I'll report them as fraudulent officers to their own organization unless I get badge numbers.

EDIT: And done. NSA too.  

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ArmasTermin

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:27 pm
OberFeldwebel
ArmasTermin
Part of me wants to say it must have just been some mega Obama supporter that got pissed that someone could say bad things about her guy. And that she lied about a threat to him in order to call in the goons. And that if the goons heard a threat about any political official they'd get into attack mode. And that's what happened. And that it's not about Obama being leader of JBTs, just that the same would happen for any Presidential hopeful in the situation.

But the other part of me is reasonable. xd



And to expect that to do such an investigation as to go to someone's front door without physical evidence is reasonable?


I think you misunderstood me.  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:16 pm
sound a little BSey but hey, it might be true, and if it is, thats just sad...  

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:33 am
ArmasTermin
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ArmasTermin
Part of me wants to say it must have just been some mega Obama supporter that got pissed that someone could say bad things about her guy. And that she lied about a threat to him in order to call in the goons. And that if the goons heard a threat about any political official they'd get into attack mode. And that's what happened. And that it's not about Obama being leader of JBTs, just that the same would happen for any Presidential hopeful in the situation.

But the other part of me is reasonable. xd



And to expect that to do such an investigation as to go to someone's front door without physical evidence is reasonable?


I think you misunderstood me.


I'm reading it again, what did I misunderstand?
I got that the b***h lied from the beginning. But even so, wouldn't, or shouldn't rather, they get some evidence of the accusation first?
I honestly doubt that they wouldn't be recording the call for "training purposes"?  
PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:44 am
OberFeldwebel
ArmasTermin
OberFeldwebel
ArmasTermin
Part of me wants to say it must have just been some mega Obama supporter that got pissed that someone could say bad things about her guy. And that she lied about a threat to him in order to call in the goons. And that if the goons heard a threat about any political official they'd get into attack mode. And that's what happened. And that it's not about Obama being leader of JBTs, just that the same would happen for any Presidential hopeful in the situation.

But the other part of me is reasonable. xd



And to expect that to do such an investigation as to go to someone's front door without physical evidence is reasonable?


I think you misunderstood me.


I'm reading it again, what did I misunderstand?
I got that the b***h lied from the beginning. But even so, wouldn't, or shouldn't rather, they get some evidence of the accusation first?
I honestly doubt that they wouldn't be recording the call for "training purposes"?
No, no, they have to investigate any and all possible threats. That way they can't be accused of ignoring it if something really happens. They SHOULD, however, take the other b***h to jail for false reporting of a crime.  

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OberFeldwebel

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:28 am
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ArmasTermin
OberFeldwebel
ArmasTermin
Part of me wants to say it must have just been some mega Obama supporter that got pissed that someone could say bad things about her guy. And that she lied about a threat to him in order to call in the goons. And that if the goons heard a threat about any political official they'd get into attack mode. And that's what happened. And that it's not about Obama being leader of JBTs, just that the same would happen for any Presidential hopeful in the situation.

But the other part of me is reasonable. xd



And to expect that to do such an investigation as to go to someone's front door without physical evidence is reasonable?


I think you misunderstood me.


I'm reading it again, what did I misunderstand?
I got that the b***h lied from the beginning. But even so, wouldn't, or shouldn't rather, they get some evidence of the accusation first?
I honestly doubt that they wouldn't be recording the call for "training purposes"?


No, no, they have to investigate any and all possible threats. That way they can't be accused of ignoring it if something really happens. They SHOULD, however, take the other b***h to jail for false reporting of a crime.


Really?
... that seems a bit unconstitutional but on the other hand if they do go by it they'll get sued for not acting faster...
but if they do act fast, what are their odds of being sued?

Agreed, the stupid b***h should be taken to jail for false accusations and financially raped as well.


Which reminds me, I should get one of those phone recorders.

http://www.telephonecallrecorder.com/p5045-micro-phone-recorder-p-49.html

That seems like a good one.  
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