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CptBlackKawk

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:24 pm
I've heard it used a lot, but I still have absolutely no idea what a stove-pipe jam is.

I had a feeling it was when the bullet got shoved in, didn't go into the chamber and was just pointed upwards above the chamber.

Am I correct? Or am I a ******** idiot?  
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:09 pm
From what I've been gathered, it's when the bolt closes on a shell mid-ejection, and the bolt gets propped open. Used to happen to my mom's Star PD all the time. She got DAMN fast at a rack-tap-bang drill.  

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CptBlackKawk

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:27 am
Oh, alright. I get that every so often on my .22...But, I get the bad jams like I was describing in my first post with the 30 round mag.  
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:52 am
CptBlackKawk
Oh, alright. I get that every so often on my .22...But, I get the bad jams like I was describing in my first post with the 30 round mag.
I get that with the last round on my M44. Usually it's the magazine's fault. Does it have fins on the sides you can bend to adjust?  

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ArmasTermin

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:15 pm
It's when the action traps an empty shell as it's sticking upwards like the pipe on a stove. Makes a lot of sense, really. But it can also catch it horizontally as long as it's almost out.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:42 am
Fresnel
CptBlackKawk
Oh, alright. I get that every so often on my .22...But, I get the bad jams like I was describing in my first post with the 30 round mag.
I get that with the last round on my M44. Usually it's the magazine's fault. Does it have fins on the sides you can bend to adjust?

Nope, my mags are completely plastic.  

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CptBlackKawk

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:44 am
ArmasTermin
It's when the action traps an empty shell as it's sticking upwards like the pipe on a stove. Makes a lot of sense, really. But it can also catch it horizontally as long as it's almost out.

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Thanks for the picture reference, explains everything.  
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:27 am
CptBlackKawk
Fresnel
CptBlackKawk
Oh, alright. I get that every so often on my .22...But, I get the bad jams like I was describing in my first post with the 30 round mag.
I get that with the last round on my M44. Usually it's the magazine's fault. Does it have fins on the sides you can bend to adjust?

Nope, my mags are completely plastic.
Ouch. Maybe you could try a friend's or something, see if that helps.  

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CptBlackKawk

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:31 pm
Well, there's just one little problem.
Remington hasn't made any metal mags for the 597, yet.
The only one who does is some random guy doing it out of his home in ******** Britain or some s**t, so it'd be expensive as HELL.  
PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:46 am
CptBlackKawk
Well, there's just one little problem.
Remington hasn't made any metal mags for the 597, yet.
The only one who does is some random guy doing it out of his home in ******** Britain or some s**t, so it'd be expensive as HELL.
Well, if a plastic mag works fine in his gun and not in yours, you can say it's the gun. If it's ******** in both, you have your answer.  

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OberFeldwebel

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:12 am
CptBlackKawk
Well, there's just one little problem.
Remington hasn't made any metal mags for the 597, yet.
The only one who does is some random guy doing it out of his home in ******** Britain or some s**t, so it'd be expensive as HELL.


I bought a metal mag for the 597.
Whether it was made by the Brit you're talking about I'm not sure.
And I can't imagine my parents paying more than $20 for one.

I got it at either Fleetfarm or Wal*Mart.

... if you don't know what Fleetfarm is I'm not quite sure what to compare it to.
They supply farm stuff as well as bulk items and firearms.

One trip, I got a Mosin Nagant M91/30 and a 3 lb bag of gummy worms, they also had a can of 7.62x54R.  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:37 am
OberFeldwebel
CptBlackKawk
Well, there's just one little problem.
Remington hasn't made any metal mags for the 597, yet.
The only one who does is some random guy doing it out of his home in ******** Britain or some s**t, so it'd be expensive as HELL.


I bought a metal mag for the 597.
Whether it was made by the Brit you're talking about I'm not sure.
And I can't imagine my parents paying more than $20 for one.

I got it at either Fleetfarm or Wal*Mart.

... if you don't know what Fleetfarm is I'm not quite sure what to compare it to.
They supply farm stuff as well as bulk items and firearms.

One trip, I got a Mosin Nagant M91/30 and a 3 lb bag of gummy worms, they also had a can of 7.62x54R.



That sir, has made me jealous on every level currently possible.  

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Barru

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:30 am
Crash Maniac
OberFeldwebel
CptBlackKawk
Well, there's just one little problem.
Remington hasn't made any metal mags for the 597, yet.
The only one who does is some random guy doing it out of his home in ******** Britain or some s**t, so it'd be expensive as HELL.


I bought a metal mag for the 597.
Whether it was made by the Brit you're talking about I'm not sure.
And I can't imagine my parents paying more than $20 for one.

I got it at either Fleetfarm or Wal*Mart.

... if you don't know what Fleetfarm is I'm not quite sure what to compare it to.
They supply farm stuff as well as bulk items and firearms.

One trip, I got a Mosin Nagant M91/30 and a 3 lb bag of gummy worms, they also had a can of 7.62x54R.



That sir, has made me jealous on every level currently possible.


Yes, that was a day of win.  
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:06 am
Barru
Crash Maniac
OberFeldwebel
CptBlackKawk
Well, there's just one little problem.
Remington hasn't made any metal mags for the 597, yet.
The only one who does is some random guy doing it out of his home in ******** Britain or some s**t, so it'd be expensive as HELL.


I bought a metal mag for the 597.
Whether it was made by the Brit you're talking about I'm not sure.
And I can't imagine my parents paying more than $20 for one.

I got it at either Fleetfarm or Wal*Mart.

... if you don't know what Fleetfarm is I'm not quite sure what to compare it to.
They supply farm stuff as well as bulk items and firearms.

One trip, I got a Mosin Nagant M91/30 and a 3 lb bag of gummy worms, they also had a can of 7.62x54R.



That sir, has made me jealous on every level currently possible.


Yes, that was a day of win.


where can i find this, Fleetfarm? and how much are those gummy worms?  

Crash Maniac

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