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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:25 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:30 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:47 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:48 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:19 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:15 pm
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What is this tainting the taste of victory? Sony fanboys pushed the PS2 in my face for being the top-seller of last generation, when it was the "casual" or "expanded audience" console then, but now that the Wii is embracing (and stating) these factors, people act like it's a bad thing. Doesn't it seem a little messed up to anyone else that when Nintendo gets ahead, people start complaining about lack of good games, or lack of first party support, but Sony's been ahead for how long, and their first party support hasn't exactly been the driving force of their consoles either. I'm just sick of hearing "oh because it's cheap" and "oh they try to get the cazooallz" and all that bullshit, because that's what helped the PS2 win, and it's a good strategy for a company. Not enough big titles? I look at my list of Wii games, and I see something I don't see on the other consoles: Diversity. I actually have a good number of games, and guess what? They're all extremely diverse. What came out this holiday season? Shooters. What came out this year? Shooters?
What didn't I buy? Shooters. The Wii has plenty of games, and you can't use any arguments like there being a lot of shovelware, because every console has its helping of s**t, just as the PS2 did, and no one bitched back then. But oh my God, if it's Nintendo, look the ******** out, and let's start a God damn protest.
Too long; didn't read? Go Nintendo, ******** haters.
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:37 pm
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Waynebrizzle l-Kathulu-l Really? I thought the 360 would have won. Then again this is winning by sales. The wii won that because it's family friendly and its the cheapest. Nope. The 360's been making huge attempts to be family friendly, and its core model is cheaper than the Wii too. Now, it's undeniable that the Wii wouldn't win game library wise. For this year at least. Spoops, forgot about the Arcade. I just got it too. With the addition of the avatars for live it could be better. That and all the arcade games are pretty simple; Uno, Worms, Bomberman, etc.
Wii definitely could not win with games. Not enough games for hardcore gamers.
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:56 am
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Meta_Fish What is this tainting the taste of victory? Sony fanboys pushed the PS2 in my face for being the top-seller of last generation, when it was the "casual" or "expanded audience" console then, but now that the Wii is embracing (and stating) these factors, people act like it's a bad thing. Doesn't it seem a little messed up to anyone else that when Nintendo gets ahead, people start complaining about lack of good games, or lack of first party support, but Sony's been ahead for how long, and their first party support hasn't exactly been the driving force of their consoles either. I'm just sick of hearing "oh because it's cheap" and "oh they try to get the cazooallz" and all that bullshit, because that's what helped the PS2 win, and it's a good strategy for a company. Not enough big titles? I look at my list of Wii games, and I see something I don't see on the other consoles: Diversity. I actually have a good number of games, and guess what? They're all extremely diverse. What came out this holiday season? Shooters. What came out this year? Shooters? What didn't I buy? Shooters. The Wii has plenty of games, and you can't use any arguments like there being a lot of shovelware, because every console has its helping of s**t, just as the PS2 did, and no one bitched back then. But oh my God, if it's Nintendo, look the ******** out, and let's start a God damn protest. Too long; didn't read? Go Nintendo, ******** haters. Yeah, I agree on the approach part...kinda, but the PS2's Shovelware:Quality ratio wasn't nearly as high as the Wii's, earning it more respect among the core crowd then the Wii. Nintendo has left gamers feeling abandoned by first; making an underpowered machine(not that bad on it's own, but it made it easier to make "cheap" games on the console), second; allowing shovelware to run rampant among it's machine's library(I am referring to how Nintendo will license any game for the console while MS and Sony show a little more restraint), third; making their own crappy games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Sports 2, and Wii Music(scaled in order of most forgivable - least, Wii Sports 1 being at the top for coming free with the console). I don't know maybe I'm just bitter because I haven't bought any Wii games since Brawl and No More Heroes. If anyone is to blame for shovelware though, it mostly the fault of third parties and the casuals that buy the shitty games(furthering the amount made).
TL;DR The PS2 constantly had games that were desirable, while the Wii has long dry periods.
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:05 am
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:32 am
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:58 am
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:06 am
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:55 am
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Evamortte Meta_Fish What is this tainting the taste of victory? Sony fanboys pushed the PS2 in my face for being the top-seller of last generation, when it was the "casual" or "expanded audience" console then, but now that the Wii is embracing (and stating) these factors, people act like it's a bad thing. Doesn't it seem a little messed up to anyone else that when Nintendo gets ahead, people start complaining about lack of good games, or lack of first party support, but Sony's been ahead for how long, and their first party support hasn't exactly been the driving force of their consoles either. I'm just sick of hearing "oh because it's cheap" and "oh they try to get the cazooallz" and all that bullshit, because that's what helped the PS2 win, and it's a good strategy for a company. Not enough big titles? I look at my list of Wii games, and I see something I don't see on the other consoles: Diversity. I actually have a good number of games, and guess what? They're all extremely diverse. What came out this holiday season? Shooters. What came out this year? Shooters? What didn't I buy? Shooters. The Wii has plenty of games, and you can't use any arguments like there being a lot of shovelware, because every console has its helping of s**t, just as the PS2 did, and no one bitched back then. But oh my God, if it's Nintendo, look the ******** out, and let's start a God damn protest. Too long; didn't read? Go Nintendo, ******** haters. Yeah, I agree on the approach part...kinda, but the PS2's Shovelware:Quality ratio wasn't nearly as high as the Wii's, earning it more respect among the core crowd then the Wii. Nintendo has left gamers feeling abandoned by first; making an underpowered machine(not that bad on it's own, but it made it easier to make "cheap" games on the console), second; allowing shovelware to run rampant among it's machine's library(I am referring to how Nintendo will license any game for the console while MS and Sony show a little more restraint), third; making their own crappy games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Sports 2, and Wii Music(scaled in order of most forgivable - least, Wii Sports 1 being at the top for coming free with the console). I don't know maybe I'm just bitter because I haven't bought any Wii games since Brawl and No More Heroes. If anyone is to blame for shovelware though, it mostly the fault of third parties and the casuals that buy the shitty games(furthering the amount made).
TL;DR The PS2 constantly had games that were desirable, while the Wii has long dry periods. This.
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:32 am
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Evamortte Meta_Fish What is this tainting the taste of victory? Sony fanboys pushed the PS2 in my face for being the top-seller of last generation, when it was the "casual" or "expanded audience" console then, but now that the Wii is embracing (and stating) these factors, people act like it's a bad thing. Doesn't it seem a little messed up to anyone else that when Nintendo gets ahead, people start complaining about lack of good games, or lack of first party support, but Sony's been ahead for how long, and their first party support hasn't exactly been the driving force of their consoles either. I'm just sick of hearing "oh because it's cheap" and "oh they try to get the cazooallz" and all that bullshit, because that's what helped the PS2 win, and it's a good strategy for a company. Not enough big titles? I look at my list of Wii games, and I see something I don't see on the other consoles: Diversity. I actually have a good number of games, and guess what? They're all extremely diverse. What came out this holiday season? Shooters. What came out this year? Shooters? What didn't I buy? Shooters. The Wii has plenty of games, and you can't use any arguments like there being a lot of shovelware, because every console has its helping of s**t, just as the PS2 did, and no one bitched back then. But oh my God, if it's Nintendo, look the ******** out, and let's start a God damn protest. Too long; didn't read? Go Nintendo, ******** haters. Yeah, I agree on the approach part...kinda, but the PS2's Shovelware:Quality ratio wasn't nearly as high as the Wii's, earning it more respect among the core crowd then the Wii. Nintendo has left gamers feeling abandoned by first; making an underpowered machine(not that bad on it's own, but it made it easier to make "cheap" games on the console), second; allowing shovelware to run rampant among it's machine's library(I am referring to how Nintendo will license any game for the console while MS and Sony show a little more restraint), third; making their own crappy games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Sports 2, and Wii Music(scaled in order of most forgivable - least, Wii Sports 1 being at the top for coming free with the console). I don't know maybe I'm just bitter because I haven't bought any Wii games since Brawl and No More Heroes. If anyone is to blame for shovelware though, it mostly the fault of third parties and the casuals that buy the shitty games(furthering the amount made).
TL;DR The PS2 constantly had games that were desirable, while the Wii has long dry periods. And? A short drought means nothing if we get a tsunami later. Consider the Wii's game library as a person with a severe case of bipolar personality disorder. On the one hand, we get lots of shovelware. On the other hand, when we get good games, they're never just "good", they're |
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:42 am
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ChaosTorrent Evamortte Yeah, I agree on the approach part...kinda, but the PS2's Shovelware:Quality ratio wasn't nearly as high as the Wii's, earning it more respect among the core crowd then the Wii. Nintendo has left gamers feeling abandoned by first; making an underpowered machine(not that bad on it's own, but it made it easier to make "cheap" games on the console), second; allowing shovelware to run rampant among it's machine's library(I am referring to how Nintendo will license any game for the console while MS and Sony show a little more restraint) Who cares how much shovelware there is? I know it hurts mainly seeing shitty and completely useless games on the Wii game shelves, but you'll learn to ignore them and appreciate the good games that are out there.
Evamortte , third; making their own crappy games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Sports 2, and Wii Music(scaled in order of most forgivable - least, Wii Sports 1 being at the top for coming free with the console). I don't know why you're calling Wii Sports a crappy game. I can see the games not appealing to you, but they're well made, it's fun to sit down with friends (gamers or not) and play a few rounds of any of the five sports with them. Maybe Wii Fit doesn't appeal to you; that still doesn't mean it's crappy. I could just as easily say "I don't see why there are so many crappy games on the 360" and list off Bioshock, Halo 3 and Gears of War 2, just because they don't appeal to me. Sure they're well made games, but God forbid that they appeal to someone other than me. Maybe I'm just a casfag now.
Evamortte I don't know maybe I'm just bitter because I haven't bought any Wii games since Brawl and No More Heroes. What Wii games do you have? I have 11, but I still don't have all of the ones I want. I just can't afford to keep buying them and DS games constantly, nor do I have the time to beat all of them. Have you played De Blob? Mushroom Men? Samba De Amigo? Okami? (I hope) Excite Truck, Super Paper Mario? Elebits? Zack and Wiki? Megaman 9, World of Goo, Lost Winds, the Art Style games on WiiWare. There are good games there, you just have to be willing to try something that you aren't used to.
Evamortte If anyone is to blame for shovelware though, it mostly the fault of third parties and the casuals that buy the shitty games(furthering the amount made). IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT. It's not hurting you, it's not hurting me.
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