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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:23 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:25 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:11 pm
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Auto, revolvers are not the best choice for a CCW (Concealed Carry Weapon) for several reasons. 1) Small capacity, the average revolver only holds 5-6 shots and even then very few are capable of using moon-clips to reload. 2) Revolvers are typically wide, bulky, and pointy. Basically, they aren't very ergonomic for a carrying. 3) There aren't many revolvers that would be conventional to carry (IE You wouldn't want to carry a 500S&W) that aren't available in autos of comparable calibers.
Now, that isn't to say that you shouldn't carry a revolver, but there are so many hick-ups with using a revolver as a CCW that it is hardly worth it. For example, if you go through the CHL (Concealed Handgun License) class with a revolver, you will only be allowed to carry with a revolver.
What state do you live in? Different states have different restrictions on magazine capacities. Are you wanting to get a handgun now, or when you're 21? before the age of 21 you can't legally buy handguns or handgun ammo (I'm not sure if this varies per state or not). However, if you are "Given" the handgun as a gift from your parents/guardians it is legal.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:04 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:20 am
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Fresnel Freak_090 before the age of 21 you can't legally buy ... handgun ammo (I'm not sure if this varies per state or not). You can if you tell the shopkeep it's for a carbine. 3nodding Most won't bother to ask questions, so long as you sound plausible. Hell, at some ranges I've gone back into the shop and just bought more ammo no questions asked. It's the big chain stores you have to watch out for.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:21 pm
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Freak_090 Auto, revolvers are not the best choice for a CCW (Concealed Carry Weapon) for several reasons. 1) Small capacity, the average revolver only holds 5-6 shots and even then very few are capable of using moon-clips to reload. 2) Revolvers are typically wide, bulky, and pointy. Basically, they aren't very ergonomic for a carrying. 3) There aren't many revolvers that would be conventional to carry (IE You wouldn't want to carry a 500S&W) that aren't available in autos of comparable calibers. Now, that isn't to say that you shouldn't carry a revolver, but there are so many hick-ups with using a revolver as a CCW that it is hardly worth it. For example, if you go through the CHL (Concealed Handgun License) class with a revolver, you will only be allowed to carry with a revolver. What state do you live in? Different states have different restrictions on magazine capacities. Are you wanting to get a handgun now, or when you're 21? before the age of 21 you can't legally buy handguns or handgun ammo (I'm not sure if this varies per state or not). However, if you are "Given" the handgun as a gift from your parents/guardians it is legal.
I have to disagree with a few statements made here. There's nothing wrong with a revolver for concealed carry. Capacity has been argued, but if you need 17 rounds to defend yourself with, you're in the wrong part of town. Seventeen is bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang. and you're responsible for every bullet you fire. with six shot's you're more inclined to direct each bullet where it needs to go rather than fire wildly in the genera ldirection of the threat.
The width of a revolver, in its cylinder, presses the gun's grip outward slightly from the body. In a belly-band type holster it makes a gap between the body and grip for you to get your thumb between cleanly for a faster draw.
Revolver grips are molded for a hand, not a magazine, so they're more comfortable and pointable.
Revolvers do not jam.
A bullet in a revolver that fails to fire requires only another pull of the trigger to bring another in line. With an automatic one must shuttle the slide to expel the spent round. Miliseconds count.
A small .357 Revolver just screams "stop, now" and a .38 revolver is perfectly adequet. Even more so with +P ammunition.
"Sharpness" of a revolver depends on the model. Look into the Bodyguard Airweight if you want snag-free.
If printing under clothes, revolvers appear slightly less gun-like than a boxy automatic.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:36 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:18 pm
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ArmasTermin Freak_090 Auto, revolvers are not the best choice for a CCW (Concealed Carry Weapon) for several reasons. 1) Small capacity, the average revolver only holds 5-6 shots and even then very few are capable of using moon-clips to reload. 2) Revolvers are typically wide, bulky, and pointy. Basically, they aren't very ergonomic for a carrying. 3) There aren't many revolvers that would be conventional to carry (IE You wouldn't want to carry a 500S&W) that aren't available in autos of comparable calibers. Now, that isn't to say that you shouldn't carry a revolver, but there are so many hick-ups with using a revolver as a CCW that it is hardly worth it. For example, if you go through the CHL (Concealed Handgun License) class with a revolver, you will only be allowed to carry with a revolver. What state do you live in? Different states have different restrictions on magazine capacities. Are you wanting to get a handgun now, or when you're 21? before the age of 21 you can't legally buy handguns or handgun ammo (I'm not sure if this varies per state or not). However, if you are "Given" the handgun as a gift from your parents/guardians it is legal. I have to disagree with a few statements made here. There's nothing wrong with a revolver for concealed carry. Capacity has been argued, but if you need 17 rounds to defend yourself with, you're in the wrong part of town. Seventeen is bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang. and you're responsible for every bullet you fire. with six shot's you're more inclined to direct each bullet where it needs to go rather than fire wildly in the genera ldirection of the threat. The width of a revolver, in its cylinder, presses the gun's grip outward slightly from the body. In a belly-band type holster it makes a gap between the body and grip for you to get your thumb between cleanly for a faster draw. Revolver grips are molded for a hand, not a magazine, so they're more comfortable and pointable. Revolvers do not jam. A bullet in a revolver that fails to fire requires only another pull of the trigger to bring another in line. With an automatic one must shuttle the slide to expel the spent round. Miliseconds count. A small .357 Revolver just screams "stop, now" and a .38 revolver is perfectly adequet. Even more so with +P ammunition. "Sharpness" of a revolver depends on the model. Look into the Bodyguard Airweight if you want snag-free. If printing under clothes, revolvers appear slightly less gun-like than a boxy automatic.
Here here!
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:11 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:48 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:04 pm
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ArmasTermin Freak_090 Auto, revolvers are not the best choice for a CCW (Concealed Carry Weapon) for several reasons. 1) Small capacity, the average revolver only holds 5-6 shots and even then very few are capable of using moon-clips to reload. 2) Revolvers are typically wide, bulky, and pointy. Basically, they aren't very ergonomic for a carrying. 3) There aren't many revolvers that would be conventional to carry (IE You wouldn't want to carry a 500S&W) that aren't available in autos of comparable calibers. Now, that isn't to say that you shouldn't carry a revolver, but there are so many hick-ups with using a revolver as a CCW that it is hardly worth it. For example, if you go through the CHL (Concealed Handgun License) class with a revolver, you will only be allowed to carry with a revolver. What state do you live in? Different states have different restrictions on magazine capacities. Are you wanting to get a handgun now, or when you're 21? before the age of 21 you can't legally buy handguns or handgun ammo (I'm not sure if this varies per state or not). However, if you are "Given" the handgun as a gift from your parents/guardians it is legal. I have to disagree with a few statements made here. There's nothing wrong with a revolver for concealed carry. Capacity has been argued, but if you need 17 rounds to defend yourself with, you're in the wrong part of town. Seventeen is bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang. and you're responsible for every bullet you fire. with six shot's you're more inclined to direct each bullet where it needs to go rather than fire wildly in the genera ldirection of the threat. The width of a revolver, in its cylinder, presses the gun's grip outward slightly from the body. In a belly-band type holster it makes a gap between the body and grip for you to get your thumb between cleanly for a faster draw. Revolver grips are molded for a hand, not a magazine, so they're more comfortable and pointable. Revolvers do not jam. A bullet in a revolver that fails to fire requires only another pull of the trigger to bring another in line. With an automatic one must shuttle the slide to expel the spent round. Miliseconds count. A small .357 Revolver just screams "stop, now" and a .38 revolver is perfectly adequet. Even more so with +P ammunition. "Sharpness" of a revolver depends on the model. Look into the Bodyguard Airweight if you want snag-free. If printing under clothes, revolvers appear slightly less gun-like than a boxy automatic. +1 for solid logic.
I would add that having the revolver holding onto your spent cases leaves a cleaner crime scene.
And while I would want more rounds in a one on gang fight, in a one-on-one confrontation, I agree that the sight of a big barrel revolver will leave the opposing party thinking more than twice about his or her odds.
Whatever pistol you buy, try for reliability first. In my real world experience, I prefer a single action revolver with plenty of practice to make your reactions automatic rather than hoping your automatic will bail you out. Not that I hate automatics. I own a few.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:50 pm
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ArmasTermin I have to disagree with a few statements made here. There's nothing wrong with a revolver for concealed carry. Capacity has been argued, but if you need 17 rounds to defend yourself with, you're in the wrong part of town. Seventeen is bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang. and you're responsible for every bullet you fire. with six shot's you're more inclined to direct each bullet where it needs to go rather than fire wildly in the genera ldirection of the threat. The width of a revolver, in its cylinder, presses the gun's grip outward slightly from the body. In a belly-band type holster it makes a gap between the body and grip for you to get your thumb between cleanly for a faster draw. Revolver grips are molded for a hand, not a magazine, so they're more comfortable and pointable. Revolvers do not jam. A bullet in a revolver that fails to fire requires only another pull of the trigger to bring another in line. With an automatic one must shuttle the slide to expel the spent round. Miliseconds count. A small .357 Revolver just screams "stop, now" and a .38 revolver is perfectly adequet. Even more so with +P ammunition. "Sharpness" of a revolver depends on the model. Look into the Bodyguard Airweight if you want snag-free. If printing under clothes, revolvers appear slightly less gun-like than a boxy automatic.
Sure you would only need about 3-4 rounds to take out a hostile. However, lets say that you get attacked by 2 or more or you are in a store or bank and several armed men come in to rob the place. 6 rounds isn't a very safe bet.
I have to disagree with you on the grips. the only revolvers that I have felt comfortable holding are revolvers with huge grips like a .500SW or .454 cassul. Regular sized revolvers have those tiny grips that just wear your hands raw and have a ridiculous trigger pull. IMO, Autos are better balanced (the majority of the weight is IN you hand, not in front of it) and have a grip that will stay firmly in your hand.
Practice makes perfect, the more rapid fire drills you do, the better your aim will be when you NEED to shoot. Also, double taps, only a reckless idiot would shoot non-stop until the gun it empty. If you feel that you may be that reckless when the time comes then by all means use a revolver. But, I would sure as hell hope that anyone so reckless would be failed when taking a CHL class. (Don't take this personal, the sheer thought of someone so careless makes me angry.)
You're right autos can jam. However, with the exception of 1 FTE, I have never encountered a jam that couldn't be blamed on the user. I don't really count that FTE due to it was with crappy Winchester White box ammo which has a reputation for being shitty. The jams I have encountered have all been caused by either limp-wristing, or by not fully seating a magazine. If you have a unreliable gun then you shouldn't be using it to defend your life.
A compact .45acp doesn't scream anything it just makes people sh*t their pants and go, gonk ..... xd
You shouldn't be wearing clothing that would press against the gun to begin with so I don't see how that applies.
To each his own, I personally feel much safer with the ability to take out several hostiles and THEN have to reload.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:25 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:49 pm
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ArmasTermin Man of the Demoneye My biggest issue with revolvers is that the bigger hammer gets caught on everything. Personally, I'd like a 1911. You can saw it down. Make it a little flat, serrated platform for your thumb to pull back on, rather than a jutting curve. Every disadvantage of the revolver becomes an advantage in the right situation. For example, in close quarters one might press the muzzle of their gun to the attacker's body. With an automatic this could press the slide back and keep the gun from firing. Of course one could make the argument that an attacker grabing hold of the cylinder could keep it in place, unless the gun was cocked already. But at that point the defender could use the escaping air from the cylinder gap to burn the assailant's hand to get it away. There's a reason people are still using revolvers. Several, actually. (Ruger, Smith, and Colt should be paying me for all these kind words...)
They also have hidden hammer revolvers. :/
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