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 Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:28 pm
Allah/God turns out to be a woman?
Or genderless?
I ask because both Christianity and Islam seem to have a "man should be in charge" tone to them. But what if the Creator is actually female or has no gender at all?
Just something to think about and discuss.
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:18 pm
Hihi, tat would be cool! What id God was a kid, what if god was an animal? HIhi, how would we know xp hihi
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:06 pm
Ooh, a kid would be interesting. To think that our destinies could be up to a little child who created the universe. XD Do you think he did it with crayons or play-doh?
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:26 am
Hahaa, yes he painted the universe in one day and then gave life to it :'D
I wonder...If god existed...would I go to hell, then...if I said this... :/
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:40 am
Are You 2 crazy? surprised eek
And Rania, how dare u say that? eek eek eek
I PERSONALLY think Allah is shapeless, ore a light... I don't know!
But we say him talknig about Allah... And that is redirected to a man!
But Allah is just Allah! Allah don't need a body!
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:54 am
Eh, no we're just wondering... stare
Nothing's wrong with that...I guess...
Yes, that would be better, that god is just a light, or something.. :'D of course
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:58 am
Al Salam Alykom..
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Allah doesn't have a physical form ! and no one knows how Allah looks like
Allah is perfect ! Allah is not like any of His creations, and Allah has told us in Quraan that he has hands, eyes and a face, but all of these attributes are befitting to His might and glory !!
{وَيَبْقَى وَجْهُ رَبِّكَ ذُو الْجَلَالِ وَالْإِكْرَامِ }الرحمن27
{وَاصْبِرْ لِحُكْمِ رَبِّكَ فَإِنَّكَ بِأَعْيُنِنَا وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ حِينَ تَقُومُ } الطور48
{إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يُبَايِعُونَكَ إِنَّمَا يُبَايِعُونَ اللَّهَ يَدُ اللَّهِ فَوْقَ أَيْدِيهِمْ فَمَن نَّكَثَ فَإِنَّمَا يَنكُثُ عَلَى نَفْسِهِ وَمَنْ أَوْفَى بِمَا عَاهَدَ عَلَيْهُ اللَّهَ فَسَيُؤْتِيهِ أَجْراً عَظِيماً }الفتح10
But a Muslim DOES NOT say a single thing about Allah other than what Allah says about Himself !! Because if may lead to say something Haram .. Allah is Perfect and Unique !
{فَاطِرُ السَّمَاواتِ وَالْأَرْضِ جَعَلَ لَكُم مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَزْوَاجاً وَمِنَ الْأَنْعَامِ أَزْوَاجاً يَذْرَؤُكُمْ فِيهِ لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ البَصِيرُ }الشورى11
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:13 am
- Kuro Feather - Al Salam Alykom..
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Allah doesn't have a physical form ! and no one knows how Allah looks like
Allah is perfect ! Allah is not like any of His creations, and Allah has told us in Quraan that he has hands, eyes and a face, but all of these attributes are befitting to His might and glory !!
{وَيَبْقَى وَجْهُ رَبِّكَ ذُو الْجَلَالِ وَالْإِكْرَامِ }الرحمن27
{وَاصْبِرْ لِحُكْمِ رَبِّكَ فَإِنَّكَ بِأَعْيُنِنَا وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ حِينَ تَقُومُ } الطور48
{إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يُبَايِعُونَكَ إِنَّمَا يُبَايِعُونَ اللَّهَ يَدُ اللَّهِ فَوْقَ أَيْدِيهِمْ فَمَن نَّكَثَ فَإِنَّمَا يَنكُثُ عَلَى نَفْسِهِ وَمَنْ أَوْفَى بِمَا عَاهَدَ عَلَيْهُ اللَّهَ فَسَيُؤْتِيهِ أَجْراً عَظِيماً }الفتح10
But a Muslim DOES NOT say a single thing about Allah other than what Allah says about Himself !! Because if may lead to say something Haram .. Allah is Perfect and Unique !
{فَاطِرُ السَّمَاواتِ وَالْأَرْضِ جَعَلَ لَكُم مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَزْوَاجاً وَمِنَ الْأَنْعَامِ أَزْوَاجاً يَذْرَؤُكُمْ فِيهِ لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ البَصِيرُ }الشورى11
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Shokran, for your answer, and for the proof biggrin
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:14 am
Isen't it even haram thinking wrong of Allah?
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:17 am
The_Pathan Isen't it even haram thinking wrong of Allah? We're just thinking, it can't hurt anyone...and if it's haram, I'll go to hell, not you. (:
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:21 am
_rainarai_ The_Pathan Isen't it even haram thinking wrong of Allah? We're just thinking, it can't hurt anyone...and if it's haram, I'll go to hell, not you. (: Dang, a woman stare Well... I'm just telling, go to hell if u wanto... Making dua'h in your thoughts counts, and i guess thinking like that is haram too.
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:27 pm
Well to be honest, I'll say that no matter what, you're putting human characteristics to describe God, because God is supposedly inconceivable by the human mind.
I know in my faith we apply the characteristics of a loving mother and loving father to God. Basically a watchful parent who loves eternally, even when we swear, think bad of the parent, and try and desert the parent; God is always there, waiting for us to come back.
I think that the term "He" is applied to God because Judiasm, Islam and Christianity are patriarchal religions; meaning, founded by guys and led by guys. So of course, "He" is going to be applied to God because, well, the religions came out of patriarchal societies where men are powerful and women are, not considered equal.
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:39 pm
Slick Southpaw Well to be honest, I'll say that no matter what, you're putting human characteristics to describe God, because God is supposedly inconceivable by the human mind.
I know in my faith we apply the characteristics of a loving mother and loving father to God. Basically a watchful parent who loves eternally, even when we swear, think bad of the parent, and try and desert the parent; God is always there, waiting for us to come back.
I think that the term "He" is applied to God because Judiasm, Islam and Christianity are patriarchal religions; meaning, founded by guys and led by guys. So of course, "He" is going to be applied to God because, well, the religions came out of patriarchal societies where men are powerful and women are, not considered equal. I see... Good thinking.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:38 am
Rania, u agree that Islam is made by arabian mens???
And i like the word Patriarchal 3nodding
Though i think that it is "he" because Allah does not get pregnant. But Allah can make other pregnant(sorry sorry sorry! This is only a teory, don't have to believe it)
But it is something like that 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:44 am
The_Pathan Rania, u agree that Islam is made by arabian mens??? And i like the word Patriarchal 3nodding Though i think that it is "he" because Allah does not get pregnant. But Allah can make other pregnant(sorry sorry sorry! This is only a teory, don't have to believe it) But it is something like that 3nodding
If your Allah got pregnant, then your Allah wouldn't be God, because pregnancy is associated with mortals and pagan gods. This theory doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
And technically if you want to talk about pregnancy and God, you'd more likely say that it's through God's will that a woman becomes pregnant. Not that Allah gets you pregnant.
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