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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:45 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:17 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:22 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:50 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:25 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:31 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:36 pm
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magmayoshi Fresnel Socialism is BETTER, but it just flat-out doesn't work. It requires HUMAN GOODNESS and DECENCY. See the problem here? People are selfish shits. Pure socialism just doesn't work in a society where everybody doesn't know everyone else. In a small town, it works great, but a nation? ******** that, man. You are mixing up socialism with communism. Well at least it appears to be so. Silver Screen and GREEN more obviously mixed it up though. ._.; You know, I've had people tell me this before, but not a one of them has ever taken the time to explain the difference. They just give me the hoity-toity artfag "Oh, you don't KNOW? Haw haw haw, how IGNORANT of you!".
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:52 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:06 pm
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magmayoshi Fresnel Socialism is BETTER, but it just flat-out doesn't work. It requires HUMAN GOODNESS and DECENCY. See the problem here? People are selfish shits. Pure socialism just doesn't work in a society where everybody doesn't know everyone else. In a small town, it works great, but a nation? ******** that, man. You are mixing up socialism with communism. Well at least it appears to be so. Silver Screen and GREEN more obviously mixed it up though. ._.; Actually what I said in my own comment was generic enough to cover both, as everything I said is found in communism and socialism.
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:07 pm
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Fresnel magmayoshi Fresnel Socialism is BETTER, but it just flat-out doesn't work. It requires HUMAN GOODNESS and DECENCY. See the problem here? People are selfish shits. Pure socialism just doesn't work in a society where everybody doesn't know everyone else. In a small town, it works great, but a nation? ******** that, man. You are mixing up socialism with communism. Well at least it appears to be so. Silver Screen and GREEN more obviously mixed it up though. ._.; You know, I've had people tell me this before, but not a one of them has ever taken the time to explain the difference. They just give me the hoity-toity artfag "Oh, you don't KNOW? Haw haw haw, how IGNORANT of you!". Well first off actual communism has never existed and is rather epic if pulled off. There would be no government in it, a classless society where people would get what they need, and work where they fit best and want to work, eventually eliminating the thought some people have that work=bad leading to everyone being pretty damn productive. There would also be complete redistribution of the wealth. But since people are jerks it would be almost impossible to get to. Some tyrants claim to be using communism but usually are only stealing its taxation structure.
Socialism is basically the mid-ground between capitalism and communism, where the government does SOME regulation of business and owns some businesses itself. It has slight redistribution of the wealth to help those who need it but at a rate that people are still driven by capitalistic greed as well.
The USA may say it is just capitalism but it uses a ton of socialistic beliefs. Minimal to no control by the government is required for capitalism. The world learned that leaning too close to capitalism causes things like the Great Depression. The countries working towards communism (which are some form of currently bastardized communism and tyrannical socialism) learned they don't want to let go of power. This is why most countries lean more towards the socialistic mid ground because it has the strengths of both but doesn't mix up ideologies of the extremes with what actually happens but since no one has fully pulled off either, we don't know if the ideals are possible.
I checked the OP's links and no wonder people are getting confused if they are basing it off that. The "socialism" one is confusing socialism with communism and even shows it's bias and misinterpretations in wording.
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:38 pm
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:40 pm
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Silver Screen magmayoshi Fresnel Socialism is BETTER, but it just flat-out doesn't work. It requires HUMAN GOODNESS and DECENCY. See the problem here? People are selfish shits. Pure socialism just doesn't work in a society where everybody doesn't know everyone else. In a small town, it works great, but a nation? ******** that, man. You are mixing up socialism with communism. Well at least it appears to be so. Silver Screen and GREEN more obviously mixed it up though. ._.; Actually what I said in my own comment was generic enough to cover both, as everything I said is found in communism and socialism. Exactly. Socialism and Communism are similar enough that both of our posts fit the definition well enough.
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:37 am
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:42 am
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