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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:35 am
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:43 am
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:47 am
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:23 am
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:10 pm
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:06 pm
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:41 pm
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:53 pm
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OberFeldwebel Floyd WTF?! I have to take my gun to a shop before I can shoot it? Ain't gonna happen. I loved to see how easy it was to defeat the locking device and the confession of the maker that no lock is 100% secure if someone wants to defeat it. Stupid. Just plain stupid. I'm not sure, my German is rusty. But I think 2.5 million Euros was sunk into this piece of s**t. I'm sure the parents of the kid that went and shot the school either told the kid in confidence about the lock, so he was able to remove it, OR the kid picked the lock. You're not going to stop a determined soul, but they screw everyone else over because they think they can. I'm sure Fresnel, that if they pass a law making those mandatory, they will make the people register gun barrels just like they do with frames. Did you see that guy's CZ? Nice.
1) Shoot someone with a Glock.
2) Buy new barrel for Glock
3) Buy sledgehammer with what's left over
4) Switch out barrel
5) Sledgehammer old barrel
6) INNOCENCE!
profit, blah blah blah. $150 is better than 25 to life. |
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:37 pm
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Fresnel OberFeldwebel Floyd WTF?! I have to take my gun to a shop before I can shoot it? Ain't gonna happen. I loved to see how easy it was to defeat the locking device and the confession of the maker that no lock is 100% secure if someone wants to defeat it. Stupid. Just plain stupid. I'm not sure, my German is rusty. But I think 2.5 million Euros was sunk into this piece of s**t. I'm sure the parents of the kid that went and shot the school either told the kid in confidence about the lock, so he was able to remove it, OR the kid picked the lock. You're not going to stop a determined soul, but they screw everyone else over because they think they can. I'm sure Fresnel, that if they pass a law making those mandatory, they will make the people register gun barrels just like they do with frames. Did you see that guy's CZ? Nice. You know the whole bullshit about 'ballistic fingerprinting'? I could defeat it with $150. 1) Shoot someone with a Glock. 2) Buy new barrel for Glock 3) Buy sledgehammer with what's left over 4) Switch out barrel 5) Sledgehammer old barrel 6) INNOCENCE! profit, blah blah blah. $150 is better than 25 to life.
I don't believe they match the specific barrel to the gun.
More of the bullet to the barrel to the make of the gun. Not really the specific gun.
Even if it was on file I don't think they could distinguish one round that came from an RIA 1911A1 of one serial number to another.
The real defining factors are if there was some damage to the barrel or crown leaving a destinct mark that's out of the ordinary. Or other parts making marks on the casing.
It could give someone trouble if someone used a match barrel or different maker barrel to do a crime and then switched to a factory, original maker, barrel and ditched the old one. Different groove twist etc etc.
But not with the same types.
But, if they get the casing and the gun leaves a distinct mark on it from the follower or the mag body then the person might get caught. |
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:09 am
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OberFeldwebel Fresnel OberFeldwebel Floyd WTF?! I have to take my gun to a shop before I can shoot it? Ain't gonna happen. I loved to see how easy it was to defeat the locking device and the confession of the maker that no lock is 100% secure if someone wants to defeat it. Stupid. Just plain stupid. I'm not sure, my German is rusty. But I think 2.5 million Euros was sunk into this piece of s**t. I'm sure the parents of the kid that went and shot the school either told the kid in confidence about the lock, so he was able to remove it, OR the kid picked the lock. You're not going to stop a determined soul, but they screw everyone else over because they think they can. I'm sure Fresnel, that if they pass a law making those mandatory, they will make the people register gun barrels just like they do with frames. Did you see that guy's CZ? Nice. You know the whole bullshit about 'ballistic fingerprinting'? I could defeat it with $150. 1) Shoot someone with a Glock. 2) Buy new barrel for Glock 3) Buy sledgehammer with what's left over 4) Switch out barrel 5) Sledgehammer old barrel 6) INNOCENCE! profit, blah blah blah. $150 is better than 25 to life. I don't believe they match the specific barrel to the gun. More of the bullet to the barrel to the make of the gun. Not really the specific gun. Even if it was on file I don't think they could distinguish one round that came from an RIA 1911A1 of one serial number to another. The real defining factors are if there was some damage to the barrel or crown leaving a destinct mark that's out of the ordinary. Or other parts making marks on the casing. It could give someone trouble if someone used a match barrel or different maker barrel to do a crime and then switched to a factory, original maker, barrel and ditched the old one. Different groove twist etc etc. But not with the same types. But, if they get the casing and the gun leaves a distinct mark on it from the follower or the mag body then the person might get caught.
You could file out one barrel to leave unique distinguishing markings, use it in a crime, then destroy it, and the barrel you have in your gun would be missing markings that should be there. That might work.
Hell, then again, history shows that any two bullets fired from the same gun have a small chance of being identical, even if they were both fired in controlled lab environments. |
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:43 pm
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:44 pm
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:03 pm
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OberFeldwebel Sergeant CJ Pretty neat idea. I hate the idea but it's neat none-the-less. Well... I dunno, it's stupid to me. It's about as 'neat' or 'good of an idea' as the Ford Pinto.
Yeah especially since like Fresnel said it can easily be avoided by swtiching out barrels. Hell give me three days, the cash, and barrels and i could have a streamlined casting process up and running. That wouldn't be profitable for me, but for a street dealer in Germany it would be. ninja You heard nothing. |
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:18 pm
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Fresnel OberFeldwebel Floyd WTF?! I have to take my gun to a shop before I can shoot it? Ain't gonna happen. I loved to see how easy it was to defeat the locking device and the confession of the maker that no lock is 100% secure if someone wants to defeat it. Stupid. Just plain stupid. I'm not sure, my German is rusty. But I think 2.5 million Euros was sunk into this piece of s**t. I'm sure the parents of the kid that went and shot the school either told the kid in confidence about the lock, so he was able to remove it, OR the kid picked the lock. You're not going to stop a determined soul, but they screw everyone else over because they think they can. I'm sure Fresnel, that if they pass a law making those mandatory, they will make the people register gun barrels just like they do with frames. Did you see that guy's CZ? Nice. You know the whole bullshit about 'ballistic fingerprinting'? I could defeat it with $150. 1) Shoot someone with a Glock. 2) Buy new barrel for Glock 3) Buy sledgehammer with what's left over 4) Switch out barrel 5) Sledgehammer old barrel 6) INNOCENCE! profit, blah blah blah. $150 is better than 25 to life.
Wow, what a waste of money.. i could beat it with $15.
1) buy a box of ammo
2) shoot said ammo
3) Clean gun
4) ???
5) Profit!
Each round that goes through a barrel alters it slightly and seeing as how you now have 50 rounds to burn through it, as well as the bore brush, they will never know. |
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