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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:07 am
From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31683427/ns/us_news-life/ via Digg
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Arizona approves bill allowing guns in bars
Critics of the measure say guns and alcohol are dangerous combination

US state moves to allow guns in bars

updated 8:43 a.m. PT, Wed., July 1, 2009
PHOENIX - The Arizona Senate has given final approval to a bill that would allow people with concealed weapons permits to carry a gun into a business that serves alcohol.

The 19-8 vote completes legislative action on the bill and sends it to Republican Gov. Jan Brewer. She has not said whether she will sign it, but she has long been a supporter of gun rights.

The measure has pitted powerful groups representing gun and bar owners against each other, sparking a debate about whether guns and alcohol can coexist without bloodshed.

Critics of the measure say guns and alcohol are a dangerous combination.

"We don't let people drink and drive, why should we let them drink and carry guns?" said Sen. Paula Aboud, D-Tucson, who voted against the bill.

Supporters say they should be able to protect themselves and their families even if they happen to be inside a business serving alcohol.

"It's very important that criminals are now afraid rather than law abiding citizens," said Sen. Jack Harper, R-Surprise, the bill's sponsor.

The measure would ban drinking while packing and allow restaurants to deny entry to gun-toting citizens by posting a sign next to their liquor license.

The bill initially required that a bar serving alcohol also serve food, but that provision was removed at the request of bar owners who worried about uncertainty over which bars have kitchens.

Forty other states have approved similar measures, according to the National Rifle Association.

Former Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, vetoed a similar bill earlier this decade that would not have required people to have concealed weapons permits in order to carry guns in bars.

More than 127,000 Arizonans have concealed weapons permits, which require a gun safety course and background check, according to the Arizona Department of Public Safety.

Not really all on board with this one. The potential for something going way wrong with a pistol and a beer buzz makes me really scared and glad I don't drink in bars.  
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:18 am
YOU MOTHER ******** are establishments that happen to serve alcohol, like steakhouses. BARS ARE STILL ILLEGAL, SHITHEADS. Any place that gets >50% of its income from alcohol is a BAR. This law allows CCW in RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL, assuming the carrier is not drinking said alcohol. NO MORE, NO LESS. ******** liberal media can't get a god damn thing right.  

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:16 am
In virginia, you can carry a gun into a bar, but only if it's open carry.  
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:56 pm
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YOU MOTHER ******** are establishments that happen to serve alcohol, like steakhouses. BARS ARE STILL ILLEGAL, SHITHEADS. Any place that gets >50% of its income from alcohol is a BAR. This law allows CCW in RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL, assuming the carrier is not drinking said alcohol. NO MORE, NO LESS. ******** liberal media can't get a god damn thing right.



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YOU MOTHER ******** are establishments that happen to serve alcohol, like steakhouses. BARS ARE STILL ILLEGAL, SHITHEADS. Any place that gets >50% of its income from alcohol is a BAR. This law allows CCW in RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL, assuming the carrier is not drinking said alcohol. NO MORE, NO LESS. ******** liberal media can't get a god damn thing right.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:18 am
THE LAST ONE IS A LIE.  

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:23 am
Best argument against open carry is Friday night waiting for a table at the Claim Jumpers in Phoenix. A perfect storm for this situation to go way wrong.

Claim Jumpers is a hand-in-glove fit for this law. A dining establishment with a bar that is not 50% of their income. And some people just hate waiting in the heat.

No law is without a loophole or flaw. This is the flaw that concerns me.  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:47 pm
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Best argument against open carry is Friday night waiting for a table at the Claim Jumpers in Phoenix. A perfect storm for this situation to go way wrong.

Claim Jumpers is a hand-in-glove fit for this law. A dining establishment with a bar that is not 50% of their income. And some people just hate waiting in the heat.

No law is without a loophole or flaw. This is the flaw that concerns me.
Yeah, but it'd be nice to CCW in Denny's, where they serve beer. Or in a Mexican restaurant, where they serve margaritas. Hell, just about any "fine" dining place serves some kind of booze, and it sucks to have to choose between good food and self defense.  

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