MEIN TEIL!!! NEIN!

[Psycho Lee]

British furry wants to kill parents, get d**k chewed off....

And this is why I think the british are awful people...

Quote:

Christopher Monks, 24, wanted Shaun Skarnes to murder his parents Christopher and Elizabeth Monks while they slept and then perform an extreme sex act on him, Preston Crown Court was told.

The bisexual pair are alleged to have hatched the plot after meeting on an internet site about "Furries" – people who pretend to be animal characters and share sexual role-playing fantasies.


"It seems that Skarnes was to receive no money for killing Mr and Mrs Monks but the prospect of biting off Monks' p***s. This was the climactic act of the conspiracy."

I've had to wade through dozens of posts of killing furries for sport, and putting furries in concentration camps, killing them like the jews, ect ect...

Good job dumbasses. How about I do the world a favor and kill both of these ******** for screwing up our fandom.


Oh, and since Skarnes was going to kill the parents for the chance to bite of Monk's d**k, does that mean he was working Pro-boner?  

[Selene Aries]

This is just another sad example of the human race, not furries.  

[Isaol]

Selene Aries

This is just another sad example of the human race, not furries.

Because furries are a real race.  

[shoki_de_nai]

Damn furries and their weird sexual fantasies/fetishes.  

[[-Erik-]]

Yeah, screw furries! Let's go beat a team mascot up!

 

[Garek Maxwell]

Isaol

Selene Aries

This is just another sad example of the human race, not furries.

Because furries are a real race.

Just like when I say "just another sad example of the color red, not apples", I totally mean that red is a fruit. 3nodding

The two things are separated from the beginning, with one being a subset.
Here's a description and diagram.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset

Selene was merely saying that it wasn't correct to pin blame on furries, but rather the human race in general. Again, the wording means to go from a subset to the larger set. There are many other common examples of this problem in other situations.

Here's another situation for added clarity.
Video games cause children to be violent. "This is a problem of the human race, no gamers." Gamers are inherently not a separate race, and it isn't likely that someone would somehow confuse this to mean that gamers ARE a race on their own.  

[doughboy1723]

*sigh* I heard about that. I have to agree with Selene Aries.  

[Demian Mizire]

*sigh*...eh I know..the media wanna dig up any (bullshit) bad media on crimes..blame music,tv,schools,sexuallities,and any unusuall interest. dont pay attention the the million others that listen or are part of it that are innocent. I admit I have some issues..but that was way before I became a furry.lol  

[Psycho Lee]

Well of course I know this is an issue of the human race, not furries in specific, it just makes furries look bad though. People outside the fandom will use this as an example of furries being bad. Trust me on this one. Even at a couple boards I'm at where they don't know I'm a furry, I hear anti-furry sentiment.

It's like, say, a black man killing a white man. It may have not been motivated by race, and humans kill each other all the time, but I know that people would use that murder against all blacks. The KKK and ayran nation would use it as an example.


Which is why these two furs are lucky as I would do worse than remove their male parts for making furries look bad... twisted  

[Sunegami]

Dude, there are so many furries that make the group as a whole look bad, it's pretty much not worth getting one's panties in a twist over. Plus, y'know, that's the reaction the trolls (online and IRL) want, so why give 'em the satisfaction?  

[Shaviv]

I think we have to accept, as a fandom, that there will be crazy people who do crazy s**t among us. This seems largely a fandom that revolves around arrested development and sensuality. And we're pretty welcoming of people with their own kinks or fetishes.

So one thing we need to do, if we want to minimize this in the future, is take a firm stand against any kink or fetish that would be illegal to act on. Cub? Out. Zoo? Out. Vore or snuff? Out. And anyone known to engage in illegal activities should be reported to the appropriate authorities, immediately.

By the way, there's legal precedent to suggest that creating cub porn is illegal in the United States of America, so just be aware...  

[F a w k s i]

Isn't why that one fur deleted his gallery? Roffel.  

[Selene Aries]

As long as people keep it to fantasy I don't care what their kinks are.

Tell me this, how can artwork of beings that are not even human be illegal? In any case this has been looked into many times and there was even a supreme court ruling on the matter. Media that simply suggest minors in sexual situations is protected under the first amendment. It is only illegal to do the real act with real children.

Besides, a drawing of a character does not have an actual age. They are only as old as you imagine them to be.  

[Shaviv]

Selene Aries

As long as people keep it to fantasy I don't care what their kinks are.

Tell me this, how can artwork of beings that are not even human be illegal? In any case this has been looked into many times and there was even a supreme court ruling on the matter. Media that simply suggest minors in sexual situations is protected under the first amendment. It is only illegal to do the real act with real children.

Besides, a drawing of a character does not have an actual age. They are only as old as you imagine them to be.

Sorry, Selene, but the law does not agree with you. Material that depicts intercourse with children, and does so in a positive light, is child porn, at least in some US jurisdictions, and there is legal precedent. There's also legal precedent for distribution of shota being banned under obscenity laws. Given that, I think it's quite reasonable to extend that to cub porn.

Zoo porn is a whole other deal because you hit people who ask "Well is it really so bad?" and "At least they're not human," but uh, acting on that (there seems to be a link, although not a causative one, between zoo porn and actual... activities) is illegal in many, although of course not all jurisdictions.

I wish people could just keep it to fantasy, but every few weeks there's another story of furries behaving badly in ways that involve children, animals, snuff or mutilation in a fetish context.  

[Selene Aries]

If the law disagreed with me then I know of several movies that would not be legal, yet have been shown in actual theaters.

The freedom of speech, press and expression is on the side of the artists. Only the actual act is illegal. Unless you can show me a law that states otherwise I will continue to hold to this as the facts at hand.

However, I am aware that in other countries any material depicting minors sexual activities is illegal under certain child safety acts.

And once again any link to furries from people that commit actual illegal sexual acts are unfounded. People commit them weather they are part of this fandom or not because of simple human nature.

If you actually want to protect the furry name then you yourselves need to stop dragging it through the mud by making any kind of connection with the few idiots that get caught in their own depravity. Brush these incidents off for what they actually are, coincidence.