What nindendo really needs to do!

[Puflwiz]

1. Port mother 3
2. Stop this "family friendly" crap
3. Have more online play like the Conduit
4. Make Kirby Wii
5. Make Starfox Wii
6. Make F-Zero Wii
7. Make more rated "M" games  

[Crimson Hagane]

8. Ease up on the heavy (think gigaton) "casual" marketing. Remember the hardcore consumers more.

I don't find the casual marketing idea a problem, just the execution of said idea.

((Note: exaggeration may be present.))  

[nitnit]

lol what are you guys smoking?

nintendo is completely dominating in terms of business, what they really need to do is tap into the "hardcore" gamers that the 360 grabs. Then they'd be even more dominant.

Seriously, just play the old nintendo games, and forget about it, nintendo is profit driven, and at this point in time the casual market heavily outweighs the "hardcore" market - and the only chance they have to tap into that market is next gen.  

[Michael RD]

Puflwiz

1. Port mother 3

They should release all the 3 EarthBound/Mother games here as a trilogy on the DS ninja But hey,that's jut MY opinion  

[Harrison Richardson]

I've never heard of Nindendo. But I think that they shouldn't try to join the hardcore crowd. They seem to be doing great at the moment. And it would just add another thing for fanboys to argue about. Nindendo is doing the right thing by not giving in to the fanbase. If they focus on the casual gamer, they can not worry about the console wars while they learn and make their games better.

Also, I don't know nothing. Waiting for nitnit to butcher my post and make me feel like an idiot.  

[Felix Kristanelo]

Michael RD

Puflwiz

1. Port mother 3

They should release all the 3 EarthBound/Mother games here as a trilogy on the DS ninja But hey,that's jut MY opinion

I agree. I don't know Lucas, but I'd like to. From what I gathered from Brawl I think I'd enjoy his adventure more than Ness's. If it's for the DS then a remake rather than a port, so long as whoever Nintendo lets handle that doesn't muck things up to badly.  

[Niaxus]

more blood less plumbers...all i have to say...(hi im new biggrin )  

[Puflwiz]

nitnit

lol what are you guys smoking?

nintendo is completely dominating in terms of business, what they really need to do is tap into the "hardcore" gamers that the 360 grabs. Then they'd be even more dominant.

Seriously, just play the old nintendo games, and forget about it, nintendo is profit driven, and at this point in time the casual market heavily outweighs the "hardcore" market - and the only chance they have to tap into that market is next gen.

We know nintendo is doing the best now but no one likes them anymore  

[nitnit]

I understand what you're saying, I guess the real point I was trying to make is that it's a bit too late for Nintendo to try to get "hardcore" gamers to buy their system.

You have to understand video gaming from the perspective of the average American. News stations are constantly putting out reports about how kids are addicted to them and are suffering (it's really just escapism but that's a different topic) - and to the completely average joe, "Gamer" is pretty much a derogatory term. As for the parents who aren't so much afraid of their kids being addicted, they see an equal number of reports about how there is too much sex and violence in video games, and how it's causing kids to be violent (more BS, but again, that's a different topic)

Nintendo realized that these people are seeing all of this stuff, and noticed that they actually have the most money. By presenting this image of the Wii as something everyone can have fun at a party with, as an exercise machine for parents afraid their kids aren't getting enough (lol), and as an extremely family friendly system, they got the full attention of the average american, no one who wasn't "hardcore" could really complain about it.


Fast forward to now. Everyone who plays "real" modern games plays them on the PC, the 360, the DS, or the PS3. Most of us avoided a Wii (unfortunately not me lololol), and after seeing the relatively lackluster lineup, it'd make little sense for us to pick one up. Nintendo realizes this I'm sure, and the failure that was The Conduit (extremely heavy marketing as the Wii's first real FPS, very average sales) has shown them that if they want to tap into the market that Microsoft is catering to, they need to wait until next gen.


On the flipside however, Microsoft is trying very damn hard to get "casuals" to play their system - the new XBL experience, all the media stuff, "family game night" crap, 1 vs 100, this is all stuff that we might enjoy to some extent, but it's really meant to show the Xbox as a family friendly experience, and not just the system for "hardcore" gamers.

Whew that was long. lol.  

[Puflwiz]

See i own a Wii for the very little good games they have. But once they comm out with a good game (MADWORLD, Tw, Prime 3, NMH, SmG) Its AMAZING!! Unfortunately for Nintendo They marketed so much to the casual market that Every "M" game For the Wii creates a HUGE problem with all those soccer moms

Do you see what im saying?  

[Puflwiz]

nitnit

I understand what you're saying, I guess the real point I was trying to make is that it's a bit too late for Nintendo to try to get "hardcore" gamers to buy their system.

You have to understand video gaming from the perspective of the average American. News stations are constantly putting out reports about how kids are addicted to them and are suffering (it's really just escapism but that's a different topic) - and to the completely average joe, "Gamer" is pretty much a derogatory term. As for the parents who aren't so much afraid of their kids being addicted, they see an equal number of reports about how there is too much sex and violence in video games, and how it's causing kids to be violent (more BS, but again, that's a different topic)

Nintendo realized that these people are seeing all of this stuff, and noticed that they actually have the most money. By presenting this image of the Wii as something everyone can have fun at a party with, as an exercise machine for parents afraid their kids aren't getting enough (lol), and as an extremely family friendly system, they got the full attention of the average american, no one who wasn't "hardcore" could really complain about it.


Fast forward to now. Everyone who plays "real" modern games plays them on the PC, the 360, the DS, or the PS3. Most of us avoided a Wii (unfortunately not me lololol), and after seeing the relatively lackluster lineup, it'd make little sense for us to pick one up. Nintendo realizes this I'm sure, and the failure that was The Conduit (extremely heavy marketing as the Wii's first real FPS, very average sales) has shown them that if they want to tap into the market that Microsoft is catering to, they need to wait until next gen.


On the flipside however, Microsoft is trying very damn hard to get "casuals" to play their system - the new XBL experience, all the media stuff, "family game night" crap, 1 vs 100, this is all stuff that we might enjoy to some extent, but it's really meant to show the Xbox as a family friendly experience, and not just the system for "hardcore" gamers.

Whew that was long. lol.

You forgot sony biggrin  

[Drake_XIV]

9. MAKE ALL CHARGES ONE SIZE FITS ALL  

[nitnit]

Puflwiz

nitnit

I understand what you're saying, I guess the real point I was trying to make is that it's a bit too late for Nintendo to try to get "hardcore" gamers to buy their system.

You have to understand video gaming from the perspective of the average American. News stations are constantly putting out reports about how kids are addicted to them and are suffering (it's really just escapism but that's a different topic) - and to the completely average joe, "Gamer" is pretty much a derogatory term. As for the parents who aren't so much afraid of their kids being addicted, they see an equal number of reports about how there is too much sex and violence in video games, and how it's causing kids to be violent (more BS, but again, that's a different topic)

Nintendo realized that these people are seeing all of this stuff, and noticed that they actually have the most money. By presenting this image of the Wii as something everyone can have fun at a party with, as an exercise machine for parents afraid their kids aren't getting enough (lol), and as an extremely family friendly system, they got the full attention of the average american, no one who wasn't "hardcore" could really complain about it.


Fast forward to now. Everyone who plays "real" modern games plays them on the PC, the 360, the DS, or the PS3. Most of us avoided a Wii (unfortunately not me lololol), and after seeing the relatively lackluster lineup, it'd make little sense for us to pick one up. Nintendo realizes this I'm sure, and the failure that was The Conduit (extremely heavy marketing as the Wii's first real FPS, very average sales) has shown them that if they want to tap into the market that Microsoft is catering to, they need to wait until next gen.


On the flipside however, Microsoft is trying very damn hard to get "casuals" to play their system - the new XBL experience, all the media stuff, "family game night" crap, 1 vs 100, this is all stuff that we might enjoy to some extent, but it's really meant to show the Xbox as a family friendly experience, and not just the system for "hardcore" gamers.

Whew that was long. lol.

You forgot sony biggrin

who cares about sony? they messed up so badly this generation that they went from the clear cut winners last gen to losing money per system sold, and being dead last in the sales race.  

[Joker Abron]

nitnit

Puflwiz

nitnit

I understand what you're saying, I guess the real point I was trying to make is that it's a bit too late for Nintendo to try to get "hardcore" gamers to buy their system.

You have to understand video gaming from the perspective of the average American. News stations are constantly putting out reports about how kids are addicted to them and are suffering (it's really just escapism but that's a different topic) - and to the completely average joe, "Gamer" is pretty much a derogatory term. As for the parents who aren't so much afraid of their kids being addicted, they see an equal number of reports about how there is too much sex and violence in video games, and how it's causing kids to be violent (more BS, but again, that's a different topic)

Nintendo realized that these people are seeing all of this stuff, and noticed that they actually have the most money. By presenting this image of the Wii as something everyone can have fun at a party with, as an exercise machine for parents afraid their kids aren't getting enough (lol), and as an extremely family friendly system, they got the full attention of the average american, no one who wasn't "hardcore" could really complain about it.


Fast forward to now. Everyone who plays "real" modern games plays them on the PC, the 360, the DS, or the PS3. Most of us avoided a Wii (unfortunately not me lololol), and after seeing the relatively lackluster lineup, it'd make little sense for us to pick one up. Nintendo realizes this I'm sure, and the failure that was The Conduit (extremely heavy marketing as the Wii's first real FPS, very average sales) has shown them that if they want to tap into the market that Microsoft is catering to, they need to wait until next gen.


On the flipside however, Microsoft is trying very damn hard to get "casuals" to play their system - the new XBL experience, all the media stuff, "family game night" crap, 1 vs 100, this is all stuff that we might enjoy to some extent, but it's really meant to show the Xbox as a family friendly experience, and not just the system for "hardcore" gamers.

Whew that was long. lol.

You forgot sony biggrin

who cares about sony? they messed up so badly this generation that they went from the clear cut winners last gen to losing money per system sold, and being dead last in the sales race.

Who cares about sony? I care! Sure sony did bad their first few years this generation but look at them now. More games more exclusives and It's only taking 2 years to make a game for it. Microsoft on the other hand did not do a good job although they were able to get the 360 sold at the amount they did, many of them broke down. Mine broke down so I sold mine for a wii. Besides, Sony is only last in America. In japan they are in second place and 360 is last.  

[PhoenixBlade983]

They either need to make more players able to play online like the Conduit or fix the online play so that it isn't so laggy.