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is it alright?
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The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:00 am


Asalam Alaykum biggrin

I got told that if u say anything bad about someone, then all the sins the person did, u get. and all the deeds u did, the person get.

But i am wondering now since someone told that if u talk bad about someone bad, then it's ok.

Like if i say Sharon sucks.. Or if i say Bush is a pig???? Is that ok?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:58 am


no its not you can say he lacks intelligence but you cant say he is stupid
Islam follows the rule if you cant say anything nice about someone done say anything at all mrgreen

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The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:19 am


Really? Good good biggrin I love Hitler heart (think positive) razz

But saying that Bush lacks intelligence is also bad. So why can i say that? razz He will get sad lol

It's best we don't talk about him, can't say anything good rofl
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:27 am


The_Pathan
Really? Good good biggrin I love Hitler heart (think positive) razz

But saying that Bush lacks intelligence is also bad. So why can i say that? razz He will get sad lol

It's best we don't talk about him, can't say anything good rofl


yup..
totally the best things to do..
we cant juz simply talk bout some1 flawness coz were not that perfect..

xXx_White_Crow_xXx


The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:08 am


Even if we are pefect, it is still haram talking bad in people's back.

So let's never talk bad about any1? smile

But okhti, in the times of rasullulah i read hadiths about people complaining about people doing bad things to the prophet. Is compaining alright?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:56 pm


The_Pathan
Even if we are pefect, it is still haram talking bad in people's back.

So let's never talk bad about any1? smile

But okhti, in the times of rasullulah i read hadiths about people complaining about people doing bad things to the prophet. Is compaining alright?


I am called to share my readings with you regarding the matter, my brother. I hope this helps:

There are certain cases the scholars of Islam excluded from being a sinful gossip (ghibah). These are classified into six categories, and one would not be sinful for committing gossip (ghibah) if his case fell into one of these six:

1. To go to the Muslim judge or one with jurisdiction to tell him about an injustice done to him in order to help him take his right.

2. To talk about a person’s sins that he hates mentioned, in order to seek help in preventing the person from continuing their sins. Hence, one is not sinful if he knows a Muslim who is committing a particular sin, and informs another of that matter so that the latter will help the sinful Muslim refrain from committing those sins.

However, be advised here of a very fine line: Many times a person lets loose his grudges against another to break him and seek revenge. Still, this person bluffs himself by claiming his intention is to help that person clear himself of his sin. In such a case, one does not escape the sin of gossip (ghibah).

3. To tell the mufti about someone else’s sin that he hates mentioned for the purpose of seeking the judgment of that particular matter. For example, for a man to tell the mufti his wife leaves the house against his permission does not make him sinful if one is seeking the religious judgment on that matter. However, the scholars said in such a case, one is recommended not to mention names, but to phrase the question in the third person. For example, to say: "What is the judgment according to the Religion if one's wife left the house against her husband’s permission?"

4. To depict a person with one of his attributes that he hates mentioned with the purpose of identifying him. For example, it is allowed for someone to tell his son to go and give some money to ‘the one-legged man next door,’ to clarify for the son exactly which man is meant.

5. To tell about another person’s sins which he himself openly declares. Hence, it is not sinful for one to tell about a person who himself declares he drinks alcohol or does so publicly.

6. To warn other Muslims against a sinner. This is a very important issue. It is an obligation on us to warn against those who cheat Muslims. If, for example, one knows of a waylayer targeting a route along which Muslims intend to travel, one would be sinful if he kept silent from warning the Muslims of this, thereby letting them fall prey to the waylayer. Moreover, it is more of an obligation to warn against those who cheat Muslims in their Religion than to warn against those who cheat in the worldly matters. If one knows of anyone who cheats the Muslims in their Religion, by falsely claiming to be knowledgeable, teaching them blasphemy, and/or giving them answers to Islamic questions that are incorrect--then it is an obligation to warn the Muslims against them.

This is based on a hadith related by al-Bayhaqiyy, the Prophet said:

"Until when will you withhold mentioning the person who commits enormous sins? Mention what is in him so the people would be warned against him"

Hope this helps. The best come from Allah, and all weaknesses come from me 3nodding

whitemagesarah


The Broken Winged Angel

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:14 am


if someone made me angry, i try to avoid talking bad about them as much as i can.
but then i say "umm well, they might be idiots, but i don't hate them at all."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:08 am


ok thank u Sarah biggrin

So i am allowed or not, to talk bad about dear Mr. Adolf Hitler, with the beautiful mustache?

The_Pathan
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Fallen_Reaper_To_Ninja

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:21 am


i dont really get it ... what are u guys talking about ?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:23 pm


My father told me that gossiping is worse then killing somebody because you're making a lot of problems between other people. So make sure you avoid gossip or talking about others behind their backs.

II J3N II


The_Pathan
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:40 am


That's called blackbitting and it's wrong biggrin
PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:39 am


when i say something (like if someone is wearing shorts and tank top ) i say HARRAM lol thats it

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:48 pm


... yeah.. I must keep this in mind.. because sometimes it's hard, you know because sometimes some people do stuff that is sometimes hard to ignore..
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