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ArmasTermin

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:42 pm


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Wondered what you all thought of the Judge. Part of me thinks it's awesome, the other says that it's in between two perfectly viable self defense methods and is, therefor, a tad useless. I mean for home defense you can get away with a long gun or a full-sized handgun. And for concealed carry, you'd prefer something lighter.

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But there are some specialty .410 rounds that have four 000-buck pellets, and make a fairly tight group at close range. If I'm not mistaken, 000-buck rounds are about the same size as 9mm bullets. That offers great firepower with decent velocity without risk of as much over-penetration in the home.

I'd be surprised if we hadn't discussed this already, but I can't remember when or where or if, so...
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:59 pm


The Judge was designed and built to be used at "OH GOD CLOSE" distances, namely to repel carjackers.

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And does it EVER do that.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:34 am


Is that a revolver that shoots SHOTGUN ROUNDS?!

I bet it's not legal in California, though...... emo
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:59 am


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Is that a revolver that shoots SHOTGUN ROUNDS?!

I bet it's not legal in California, though...... emo
TECHNICALLY it's an 'assault shotgun' by CA law, but either they don't give a s**t, or it's skirting that by being a pistol.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:31 pm


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Is that a revolver that shoots SHOTGUN ROUNDS?!

I bet it's not legal in California, though...... emo
TECHNICALLY it's an 'assault shotgun' by CA law, but either they don't give a s**t, or it's skirting that by being a pistol.
In that case.....

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:58 pm


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Is that a revolver that shoots SHOTGUN ROUNDS?!

I bet it's not legal in California, though...... emo
TECHNICALLY it's an 'assault shotgun' by CA law, but either they don't give a s**t, or it's skirting that by being a pistol.
Just give the excuse that you're using .45 long in the gun, not .410 shot shells, haha.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:17 pm


It's classified as a revolver, because it has rifling in the barrel.

Apparently it's Taurus' top-selling product.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:57 pm


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It's classified as a revolver, because it has rifling in the barrel.

Apparently it's Taurus' top-selling product.
I can imagine. It'd do well in a small house, too. It's small enough to keep it in a bedside drawer or something, keep it out of sight and out of the way, but when it's needed you can just pop it right out and have it in hand in seconds.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:38 pm


Apparently, it's called the "Judge" because a lot of judges in Miami would buy it for personal defense in courtrooms.

Also, the chambers are choked so that nothing other than .410 or .45 Long Colt will fit in them. That way some dumbass doesn't blow his hand off trying to fire .44 Magnum or .454 Casull in a gun that isn't meant for those kinds of pressure.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:30 pm


Two big problems arise in dealing with The Judge.

One, it's big and heavy. You won't be stuffing this down your pants. This also begs the question of concealment in situations like in-car defense.

The second issue is the fact that a ton of these are turning up on the used market now. Every time I hit Cabela's, they have three different used Judges in the case. We should find other video examples of this in action with both shot shell and .45 Colt. I suspect that the recoil is going to be nasty.

Not saying that this is a bad gun. Just had to point out what I'm seeing. In the right hands at the right moment, this is a very useful tool to have. But I'd like a little more opportunity to play with it on the range before plunking down the cash for it.

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owenmarco

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:56 pm


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It's classified as a revolver, because it has rifling in the barrel.

Apparently it's Taurus' top-selling product.
I can imagine. It'd do well in a small house, too. It's small enough to keep it in a bedside drawer or something, keep it out of sight and out of the way, but when it's needed you can just pop it right out and have it in hand in seconds.
.....Just like any handgun available?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:58 pm


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Two big problems arise in dealing with The Judge.

One, it's big and heavy. You won't be stuffing this down your pants. This also begs the question of concealment in situations like in-car defense.

The second issue is the fact that a ton of these are turning up on the used market now. Every time I hit Cabela's, they have three different used Judges in the case. We should find other video examples of this in action with both shot shell and .45 Colt. I suspect that the recoil is going to be nasty.

Not saying that this is a bad gun. Just had to point out what I'm seeing. In the right hands at the right moment, this is a very useful tool to have. But I'd like a little more opportunity to play with it on the range before plunking down the cash for it.
I shot another .45LC/.410 revolver, the Thunder 5. With target/"game" loads, basic birdshot, it's not bad at all. Now, .45LC is quite a bit less tame. I haven't had a chance to try out any of the revent buckshot offerings.

I know the owner carries a 1911, not the Thunder 5 mrgreen

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:20 pm


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It's classified as a revolver, because it has rifling in the barrel.

Apparently it's Taurus' top-selling product.
I can imagine. It'd do well in a small house, too. It's small enough to keep it in a bedside drawer or something, keep it out of sight and out of the way, but when it's needed you can just pop it right out and have it in hand in seconds.
.....Just like any handgun available?
Yeah, exactly. Except the Judge can make four or five holes to another handgun's one.

Okay, NOW I'm seeing a use for a rifled choke and buckshot.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:24 pm


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Apparently, it's called the "Judge" because a lot of judges in Miami would buy it for personal defense in courtrooms.
Oh, remember that episode of Raising the Bar where Judge Farnsworth pulls out a revolver in the courtroom? That dude is a total badass.

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ArmasTermin

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:27 pm


I think the reason a lot show up used is it's kind of a novelty. You buy one, screw around with it for a while, and then sell it back. Because it's too muich of a niche weapon to be really useful except in limited situations.

I mean I would never consider carrying it concealed, and in a house you may as well have a full-size handgun or long gun.
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