UK turns into nazi land like in V for Vendetta

[Psycho Lee]

I'm reading this thread on Fur Affinity, apparently a law has been created in the UK that makes it punishable to look at cub porn, or any drawing or 3D art that represents an underage individual.

I do not like cub porn. However, if someone wants to look at that stuff, fine with them.

To say that fake artwork of child porn will make someone molest a kid is like saying that GTA will make me kill hookers, do drugs, and steal cars. The governments keep on trying to say that certain things MAKE people commit crimes, like video games or cub porn, forgetting that in the end it's the individual's decision to commit the crime, and you can't just scapegoat his behavior on the video games or the cub porn.

When will our governments stop being nazis? When will the time come when the lower class must murder the upper class in an orgy of violence and bloodshed, because I welcome that day.  

[Psycho Lee]

Aww dammit, they locked the thread. Apparently it had become a Cub-porn-lovers flame-fest. "you like cub porn, you're a *****" that kind of s**t. God damn I love the ******** fandom. Full of flamers and haters and ******** swear, the biggest ******** hatefests in the fandom are caused by two of the stupidest things: Cub porn and diaper fetish. We are a fandom with the most ******** up fetishes, with giant 5-cocked, 6-boob herms taurs, WITH WINGS, and vore... and people who think that s**t is hot rag on people who are into cub porn and babyfur (diapers). Okay, you can like herm animal porn, but you think diaper fur is gross? ******** you.

As for me, I don't care if you draw or look at cub porn. Just don't rape real kids.

Some guy was saying that there's a connection to cub porn and *****, and I was going to reply "Just like there's a connection to violent video games and school shootings?????"  

[Garek Maxwell]

Pretty much the same opinion here. As long as its fictional, it doesn't matter... Though I will say that if someone is doing something that is truly alarming, then said person should be kept under a looking glass. I should say that this would be different than just suspicious behavior, rather it shows intent to actually commit acts that harm another (rape, molestation, murder, etc...)

Anyway, as far as governments are concerned, it's not really something I can talk much about for the UK. I don't know if they have the same laws meant to limit government intrusion in peoples lives... Even vague ones meant to be rather sweeping such as the right to privacy. (How much privacy? Can you have privacy in public? Is the internet public or private? etc...) [Stranger issues come up with people believing it's a violation of their privacy when cameras are put up around public places, yet they wouldn't complain if expensive cops were placed in the same areas instead...]


Anyway! I can't say anything about the UK really. It's not like they're the only ones with the crazy. Australia has been doing similar crazy things with privacy and media and stuff. Insaaane politicians.

...There are times when I think a revolution is needed, but then I just remember that such cases usually end up in dictatorships and wars across Europe. razz  

[Quintessence]

Eh, I can see why they outlawed it. It's kind of like marijuana... Pot is better for you than tobacco, leaves you less impaired than alcohol, is less addictive than both, and you cannot die of overdose. But, they say it's a "gateway drug," and it's outlawed. In reality, not everyone who smokes pot does harder drugs (I sure didn't), but sure, some do.

I personally think it should be legal, since it doesn't hurt anyone but the user, and it hurt the user less than things already out there. Hell, I think drugs should be legal overall. If someone wants to rot out their own body and mind, it's their personal right.

But the thing that drawn kiddie porn is a so-called gateway drug for does hurt people. And I think being in Europe, where on the Eastern side of the continent there have been several hotbeds for human trafficking and ***** sex tourism, that message rings especially clear.

Whether or not I agree with the policy, I can see why they think it necessary and right.  

[Garek Maxwell]

Quintessence

Eh, I can see why they outlawed it. It's kind of like marijuana... [...] But, they say it's a "gateway drug," and it's outlawed. In reality, not everyone who smokes pot does harder drugs (I sure didn't), but sure, some do.

The funny thing is that smoking is worse yet hardly no one claims smoking is a gateway drug to cocaine or other hard drugs. There are medically prescribed drugs that are worse or as bad as cigarettes and yet virtually no one claims they're gateway drugs either unless they're abused. ...Yet they're still handed out like candy.

This has little to do with the topic but it irks me enough to want to rant about it. stressed  

[Quintessence]

Garek Maxwell

The funny thing is that smoking is worse yet hardly no one claims smoking is a gateway drug to cocaine or other hard drugs. There are medically prescribed drugs that are worse or as bad as cigarettes and yet virtually no one claims they're gateway drugs either unless they're abused. ...Yet they're still handed out like candy.

This has little to do with the topic but it irks me enough to want to rant about it. stressed

I think the reason smoking doesn't get pinned as a gateway drug is that while nicotine does cause a reaction in the body, it couldn't really be called a high. Marijuana is the little cig that takes you up, and which might make you curious just how high you can go.

The health factor isn't the "gateway" essence, or else more people would be blaming Big Macs for getting them hooked on opium. :>

As for the prescription drugs, the ones that are commonly abused actually are treated as extremely potent gateways to addiction. My mom had some pretty nasty-severe hand and foot problems, and has had more surgeries than I want to think about. She was prescribed Oxycodone for the pain, which is a nastily abused drug. Her doctors were very aware of the potential for her to get addicted, and provided pretty good education on what to expect and how to deal with the situation.

You can't stop prescribing needed medicine just because you might get hooked, so I guess that's all they could really do.

(And mom was fine. :> )  

[Gotherine Foxx]

All i have to ask is ...wow am i going to be punished in the uk for drawing a tiger apropriate tiger size and a cat ....notably sizeibly diffrent and get mess with because of this ...damnit i like my anatomy to be correct.  

[Quintessence]

Mortella

All i have to ask is ...wow am i going to be punished in the uk for drawing a tiger apropriate tiger size and a cat ....notably sizeibly diffrent and get mess with because of this ...damnit i like my anatomy to be correct.

Give the cat baggy old lady eyes. biggrin  

[stickfanatic]

for once I kinda get lee's point :l  

[Shakeidas]

I especially love how you can be into rape, snuff, guro, zoo, etc., and no one gives a s**t because it's just drawings. But admit that you like cub porn, and BAM, suddenly you're a Catholic priest!  

[shishigashira]

darn goverment. i don't really got anything to add.  

[Garek Maxwell]

Shakeidas

But admit that you like cub porn, and BAM, suddenly you're a Catholic priest!

This reminds me of something I read in the comments to a "news article" thingy.

Article Title

Chief exorcist says Devil is in Vatican

witchfinder general

What a maroon! Also the devil lurks in choir boys pants. We as priests must exercise the devil out of the children! And no, I did not misspell exercise.

 

[Thorn apple]

Ok.

First off, I would prefer to have drug law talk as a separate thread. I will become quite ferocious on that subject because of a variety of reasons, but it comes down to the fact that I'm a better person because of my drug use and I don't regret it at all.

***** sexuality exists. (Kinsey)

Adult/child sexual relationships exist. (duh)

I make no claims as to morality. However, I fail to see how phantasy should be illegal in any context!

Yes, there have been cases where persons who were attracted to pre-pubescent persons were forbidden to enter public parks.

That sounds like "thought policing" to me.  

[Garek Maxwell]

Thorn apple

I make no claims as to morality. However, I fail to see how phantasy should be illegal in any context!

Not that I agree with *****, but morality gets rather weak in arguments on the matter when you consider that until probably the 1800s and even the 1900s there were generally few laws regarding age and sex. Most were informal laws with townspeople or family objecting to it.

Plus, sex between teens was often an accepted part of daily life...Heck, you were in your old age when you hit your 30s for long periods of human history. Not having children early on would be very detrimental to them in the future or for the population. It would be having a low birthrate with a realllly high death rate.

Anyway, this kinda goes into other issues... I will say that once you hit about 13 or so, porn should be legal. 'Cause common, admit it, you all looked it up anyway. xp