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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:23 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:45 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:10 am
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:43 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:59 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:09 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:55 am
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:14 am
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:01 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:53 pm
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Requiem in Mortis Lt Buckner I've never fired an AK. Doesn't 30-30 have similar ballistics to x39? Dimensionally it's closer to 7.62 NATO. The round has more energy when it leaves the barrel (2,580J with a 150-grain round versus the 7.62x39's 2,056 with a 154-grain round). For the record, I know very little (translation- jack s**t) about ballistics, but I'm assuming the force in Joules the round has is going to affect recoil. Newton's Third Law and whatnot. Divide force in joules by mass of the gun in kilograms and that'll give you an accurate scale of what the recoil feels like. It's got no name for the units as far as I know, but if you compare that number to other guns, you'll get an idea of what kicks harder than what.
ETA: Apparently it's "specific energy", and most often used to find out the energy density of food, but goddammit it works here too.
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:12 pm
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Floyd Lt Buckner /k/ suggested to maybe get a .357 so I can also se .38 special out of it. Does 30-30 really recoil that much? When I bought mine, I made the mistake of taking five shots in as many minutes. My shoulder hurt like hell for 12 hours! If you do get one, get a recoil pad or shoulder pad jacket. Or get a big bottle of aspirin.
You've said this kind of thing before and I still think it's ridiculous. 30-30 might recoil more than it should, but it doesn't hurt.
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:16 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:02 am
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:13 pm
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ArmasTermin Lt Buckner /k/ suggested to maybe get a .357 so I can also se .38 special out of it. Does 30-30 really recoil that much? 30-30 recoil would probably not bother you. It's really not that bad. Choosing .357 Magnum might be a good route. It would be cheaper and you could fit more in the tube so it would be more fun when plinking. But keep in mind that 30-30 will hold more energy and do it farther and faster. That being said, you're not 21 so you'd have to have someone buy you .357/.38 ammo, while you could get 30-30 on your own. Nah, most places will let you by a pistol caliber if it's for a carbine. I can buy .45ACP, though I don't own a pistol in that caliber anymore, just a carbine. Alternatively, I pretty well just buy whatever I want from the gunshop even though he knows EXACTLY what I own because I bought most of it through him.
I have a Marlin 1894 for a while, in .357. I loved the thing, but do some research if you're having problems. Their newer models need a bit of an action workover to work best because they started pumping them out faster with an expected drop in quality. Mine didn't like wide-face flatnose at all, because the extractor was too tight to allow the round to slide under it quick enough. Fifteen minutes later, that was fixed.
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