The Truth About AK47 Firepower

[Das Rabble Rouser]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgr3kTU68uw  

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Man, if Deadliest Warrior ever gets their hands on this, they'll compare it to the Barnes Varmint Grenade video, and then it's all over.  

[Das Rabble Rouser]

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Man, if Deadliest Warrior ever gets their hands on this, they'll compare it to the Barnes Varmint Grenade video, and then it's all over.

Anyone who takes Deadliest Warrior seriously is a moron. I was watching an episode with my cousin. It was Green Beret vs Spetsnaz. To compare the two handguns they set up "friendly" and "enemy" targets in a dark room and each side has to clear the room of enemies as fast as possible while wearing night vision goggles. Sure it makes good entertainment, but it does nothing to test the accuracy or the stopping power of either gun which is what the test of the guns should have been testing.

Then there was Shaka Zulu vs William Wallace. They tested the striking power of the claymore sword. It decapitated like 4 targets in one swing. When I looked closer at the decapitated necks there was no spine in them so he was just cutting through meat or whatever they used to simulate flesh. rofl  

[SpeedmanRC]

some of that is FMJ vs soft point.  

[Das Rabble Rouser]

SpeedmanRC

some of that is FMJ vs soft point.

Yes some of it is, but to a degree it still makes a good comparison.  

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Das Rabble Rouser

SpeedmanRC

some of that is FMJ vs soft point.

Yes some of it is, but to a degree it still makes a good comparison.

Yeah... 7.62x39 v. 7.62x63 is pretty obvious though, soft point or no.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

I wanna see the 7.62x54R vs. .30-06. There's probably not much difference.  

[Fresnel]

-06 is, like, x63, right? So probably not much, as x54 is a VERY fat round. Though, IIRC, -06 was pretty much the gold standard of case volume to case length to bullet size, and considered one of the most efficient bullet designs for a very long time. Browning liked it so much that the .50BMG uses all the same ratios and angles.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

Hate to burst your bubble on bashing the AK but theres a video that compares the AR and AK. They shot the AR15 at 2 4x4 wood blocks and the bullet didn't go through. They did the same with AK and the bullet went through with a slight tumble but was still flying relatively straight.  

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Valkyrie Hatter

Hate to burst your bubble on bashing the AK but theres a video that compares the AR and AK. They shot the AR15 at 2 4x4 wood blocks and the bullet didn't go through. They did the same with AK and the bullet went through with a slight tumble but was still flying relatively straight.

That seems biased. I've put 55gr. FMJ .223 through light steel plates.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

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Valkyrie Hatter

Hate to burst your bubble on bashing the AK but theres a video that compares the AR and AK. They shot the AR15 at 2 4x4 wood blocks and the bullet didn't go through. They did the same with AK and the bullet went through with a slight tumble but was still flying relatively straight.

That seems biased. I've put 55gr. FMJ .223 through light steel plates.

2 blocks back to back. I would post the video link but I'm on a smart phone so its really time consuming and frustrating. Actually they seemed to favor the AR over the AK because of the smoother firing and range potential.  

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Valkyrie Hatter

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Valkyrie Hatter

Hate to burst your bubble on bashing the AK but theres a video that compares the AR and AK. They shot the AR15 at 2 4x4 wood blocks and the bullet didn't go through. They did the same with AK and the bullet went through with a slight tumble but was still flying relatively straight.

That seems biased. I've put 55gr. FMJ .223 through light steel plates.

2 blocks back to back. I would post the video link but I'm on a smart phone so its really time consuming and frustrating. Actually they seemed to favor the AR over the AK because of the smoother firing and range potential.

I gotta say, there's nothing like an AR for smooth shooting. That huge buffer tube REALLY helps out. Although the gas up your nose from the charging handle can get a tad distracting.

Anywho, doesn't it seem odd that the caliber best suited for penetration did worse in a penetration test?  

[Das Rabble Rouser]

Valkyrie Hatter

Hate to burst your bubble on bashing the AK but theres a video that compares the AR and AK. They shot the AR15 at 2 4x4 wood blocks and the bullet didn't go through. They did the same with AK and the bullet went through with a slight tumble but was still flying relatively straight.

Firstly not bashing the AK. The title of the thread is the title of the video,

Secondly you are comparing a .30 bullet to a .22. It's obvious that the .30 does more damage than the .22 but that was not the point of the video. The point of the video is showing that the 7.62x39 isn't an evil heat seeking baby killer that explodes with the force of 10 sticks of TNT that the media would want the public to think.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

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Valkyrie Hatter

Hate to burst your bubble on bashing the AK but theres a video that compares the AR and AK. They shot the AR15 at 2 4x4 wood blocks and the bullet didn't go through. They did the same with AK and the bullet went through with a slight tumble but was still flying relatively straight.

That seems biased. I've put 55gr. FMJ .223 through light steel plates.

2 blocks back to back. I would post the video link but I'm on a smart phone so its really time consuming and frustrating. Actually they seemed to favor the AR over the AK because of the smoother firing and range potential.

I gotta say, there's nothing like an AR for smooth shooting. That huge buffer tube REALLY helps out. Although the gas up your nose from the charging handle can get a tad distracting.

Anywho, doesn't it seem odd that the caliber best suited for penetration did worse in a penetration test?

take into consideration that the 7.62 is a heavier set bullet so it weight being driven by a mach 3 force makes it a near juggernaut. Wood is also much different that steel or concrete since it a maleable substance.  

[Valkyrie Hatter]

Das Rabble Rouser

Valkyrie Hatter

Hate to burst your bubble on bashing the AK but theres a video that compares the AR and AK. They shot the AR15 at 2 4x4 wood blocks and the bullet didn't go through. They did the same with AK and the bullet went through with a slight tumble but was still flying relatively straight.

Firstly not bashing the AK. The title of the thread is the title of the video,

Secondly you are comparing a .30 bullet to a .22. It's obvious that the .30 does more damage than the .22 but that was not the point of the video. The point of the video is showing that the 7.62x39 isn't an evil heat seeking baby killer that explodes with the force of 10 sticks of TNT that the media would want the public to think.

its called sarcasm. A .223 bullet wouldn't have performed much better than the .30 Russian.