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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:21 pm
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Thought this was an interesting story, and somewhat perfect for illustrating cultural misappropriation...
Quote: Tourists visiting Thailand should be barred from getting culturally insensitive Buddhist tattoos, the culture ministry says. Niphit Intharasombat, the culture minister, said residents have complained that tattoo parlours are etching sacred images of Buddha and other religious images on to the skin of non-Buddhist visitors. "Foreigners see these tattoos as fashion," Niphit said on the ministry's website. They do not think of respecting religion, or they may not be aware that these tattoos can be offensive, he added. Thailand is mostly Buddhist, and Buddha statues and images are considered sacred objects of worship. Niphit said the culture ministry had asked Thai tattoo parlours to halt the activity. According to the official news agency, NNT, he also asked provincial governors to "inspect tattoo studios and seek their co-operation". NNT also claimed Niphit wants a new law banning the practice. source
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:03 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:09 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:46 am
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:24 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:21 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:21 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:36 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:37 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:43 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:46 am
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Esiris Aakosir I don't see how it's judgemental. If you have a religious symbol on your body, then you should act the part. It's hypocritical if you get a cross, but are not christ-like, or if you have a star of David and aren't following Judaism. There are people who are culturally Jewish- but don't observe the kosher customs and stuff, I'm sure my gay Jewish roommate would love to hear you tell him he isn't Jewish enough because he has a boyfriend. And Christians are expected to sin- if they didn't, there'd be no need for salvation. No body's perfect- we're all people, and I think it's a little out of place for someone outside of that religion to try and judge a person based on what they wear ink or otherwise.
If someone does not observe anything of the symbol they wear, then it is hypocritical. How many "I got it cause it loooked cool, but have no clue what it means' stories have you heard. I have heard a ton. It's also ignorance. And you're also twisting my words into something I'm not saying.
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:54 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:03 am
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Esiris Aakosir If someone does not observe anything of the symbol they wear, then it is hypocritical. How many "I got it cause it loooked cool, but have no clue what it means' stories have you heard. I have heard a ton. It's also ignorance. And you're also twisting my words into something I'm not saying. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth- so if you didn't mean it, I'm sorry. I've heard lots of those "It looked cool" stories- I just figure that it looking cool- it being to someone's personal taste, can be enough of a reason to do it, especially if they accept the consequences. I was at my favorite sandwich shop talking with Annette about the tattoo I'm getting on the Solstice, it's a piece of kanji and I know what it means, and the lady behind the counter was like "Cool! I have a Thor's Hammer and crescent moons on my back". I was like "Oh? Are you a Norse Pagan?" and she said she wasn't really- but she designed it herself and liked it. It's her body- whatever I think about people putting symbols on their body isn't going to change her feelings on it and as far as symbols go, a hammer than protects humanity in the legends of her ancestors seems pretty safe. If it turns out it isn't- then she can deal with that between her and Thor when it comes up. It isn't like her having the tattoo somehow hurts how my Roomie worships his gods or anything. You get just as many problems within religions as you do outside of them anyway- this isn't some kind of betrayal of oaths or revealing of mysteries belonging to closed cultures, and if it were- it wouldn't be the tattoo but the act of breaking those promises that was the problem in my opinion.
I've just gone in to parlors so many times and people go and look at the generic art that are in those large display racks and they look and pick... Without even thinking about meaning. That's something to do with piercings, not tattoos, since they cost a hell of a lot less and can be easily removed and healed. I personally want something that means something to me and something that I have designed. I have seen many people with the same tattoo, which is hilarious because they get the tattoo to be unique, in most cases. And when they get a "chaos" symbol from Warhammer, but have no clue what it means, they're going to get laughed at or regret it once they find out the meaning.
So why take so little time in thinking about something that is going to permanantly be on your body? Even the laser treatments leave the marks from the original tattoo and cost a lot more than the actual tattoo.
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:18 am
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Aakosir I've just gone in to parlors so many times and people go and look at the generic art that are in those large display racks and they look and pick... Without even thinking about meaning. I think a lot of people don't realize that Flash isn't the be all end all of ink. *shrugs* If all they want is quick Flash, then I don't mind- I mean, they're the ones who have to live with it.
Quote: That's something to do with piercings, not tattoos, since they cost a hell of a lot less and can be easily removed and healed.
It's funny you say that- I consider piercings to be really special and sacred.
Quote: I personally want something that means something to me and something that I have designed. I have seen many people with the same tattoo, which is hilarious because they get the tattoo to be unique, in most cases. And when they get a "chaos" symbol from Warhammer, but have no clue what it means, they're going to get laughed at or regret it once they find out the meaning. To each their own- in a kind of similar idea, I think it's funny that so many people look at the Holy Renascence art and think of it as this really divinely inspired stuff- when it was largely just a way for nobles to dodge accusations of vanity and still have their portraits made.
Quote: So why take so little time in thinking about something that is going to permanantly be on your body? Even the laser treatments leave the marks from the original tattoo and cost a lot more than the actual tattoo. Impulse, personal preference and stuff like that. I'm the same way as you- I want my ink to be deeply meaningful. I've got a whole shelf of books dedicated to the history of the symbol I'm getting- what it represents, rituals associated with it- tools associated with those rituals. But not everyone's like us- I hear a lot of the same thing in the BDSM community when people wear collars as fashion statements instead of statements of kink relationships. For me- I have my ideals and the choices that I make for myself- but I think that there's a line between that and body legislation which is what this thing in Thailand is, and that creeps me out.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:39 am
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