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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:37 am
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:02 am
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:40 pm
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:45 pm
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:29 pm
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I think "inspired" was the best term the apostles could have used back then, and IMO it's the most intellectually honest. I've recently started reading the OT, in light of the years spent in mind numbing philosophy courses that made me....tangent. As I was saying, The book of Genesis (well the creation narrative) is very similar to the Book of J (actually more than similar, it's clearly the source of it). And the flood story dates back to mesopotamia and isn't unique to judaism or even that region.
All these thing, however, were written by religious people of antiquity. (Though, for the record,I highly doubt their was an atheist/agnostic culture anywhere). While it'd be dangerous to base one's comprehension of science and natural process solely on the Bible or any religious manuscript, morally, it's solid and sound. If something seems false morally, I say try it out--try living the opposite way of whatever teaching you question. You can't deny the validity of your own experience.....Well, you could, but that's another tangent :p
EDIT: except for murdering people...do not attempt.
SECOND EDIT: Maybe it's the Word of God translated into the word of man, thus technically both!
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:54 pm
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:23 am
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:07 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:25 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:55 pm
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Let us take a loot at John 1:1 "In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Basically the WORD is God. However, the bible is a book of events that happened 4000 years ago. Though God himself didn't write the Bible, he did create the Word, which is Jesus Christ.
Bible: Book that holds the Word Word: God
So it's a book that explains the events and teachings of God. Back then people had to write down what was being said because of course the teachers aren't going to live around forever, that was the same for Jesus, the four who wrote the gospel weren't putting their own ideas into the bible, they were reenacting what Jesus was teaching... AND JESUS IS THE WORD!
So... if you say that the book was inspired... yes, it was. However there is no changes that man made in that book that wasn't inspired by God, or enriched in the Holy Spirit. Sure, each teacher had a different way of teaching. Take Paul for example. Although he was teaching the gospel, he was still using his own way of teaching. Yet it was still about Jesus... who is the Word. So I say; It is written by man, inspired by God. However man did not change the events that was directed by the Word...
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:08 am
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Okay so... looked it up... there is about 188 languages that the Bible has been translated in.
Though, that could just be the "main dialect" language of a country, but there is different versions/dialects like in English, there is NIV, King James, etc...
Each translation in English claims they did it correctly, right? But that is a major problem... if each one claims they did it right, yet the grammar is changed slightly, or the sentence has a different word that means something different... how do we know which one is correct? Consistency in similarities of translations make certain ones correct right? Pfft, no. Since we all know here, that our lovely Captain has pointed out one word isn't translated correctly, that one mistranslated as homosexual... to the "modern" version. I mean, can we really trust how accurate the Bible is?
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:31 pm
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Qyp Okay so... looked it up... there is about 188 languages that the Bible has been translated in. Though, that could just be the "main dialect" language of a country, but there is different versions/dialects like in English, there is NIV, King James, etc... Each translation in English claims they did it correctly, right? But that is a major problem... if each one claims they did it right, yet the grammar is changed slightly, or the sentence has a different word that means something different... how do we know which one is correct? Consistency in similarities of translations make certain ones correct right? Pfft, no. Since we all know here, that our lovely Captain has pointed out one word isn't translated correctly, that one mistranslated as homosexual... to the "modern" version. I mean, can we really trust how accurate the Bible is? Well the thing about the Bible is that it's not a legal document and shouldn't be read as if it were a legal document with every word being analyzed for it's legal nuance. They are stories that are meant to inspire us to become better people. Yes granted there is a few books dedicated to Hebrew Laws, we as Gentiles are not bound by them as we are under a new covenant. While there are many different translations, the main theme is still there. Help the poor, be kind to strangers, don't be arrogant and forget that there is always someone greater than yourself, and Christ will bring us salvation. The letter of the Law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life. Fortunately we've been learning to follow the spirit.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:11 pm
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rmcdra Qyp Okay so... looked it up... there is about 188 languages that the Bible has been translated in. Though, that could just be the "main dialect" language of a country, but there is different versions/dialects like in English, there is NIV, King James, etc... Each translation in English claims they did it correctly, right? But that is a major problem... if each one claims they did it right, yet the grammar is changed slightly, or the sentence has a different word that means something different... how do we know which one is correct? Consistency in similarities of translations make certain ones correct right? Pfft, no. Since we all know here, that our lovely Captain has pointed out one word isn't translated correctly, that one mistranslated as homosexual... to the "modern" version. I mean, can we really trust how accurate the Bible is? Well the thing about the Bible is that it's not a legal document and shouldn't be read as if it were a legal document with every word being analyzed for it's legal nuance. They are stories that are meant to inspire us to become better people. Yes granted there is a few books dedicated to Hebrew Laws, we as Gentiles are not bound by them as we are under a new covenant. While there are many different translations, the main theme is still there. Help the poor, be kind to strangers, don't be arrogant and forget that there is always someone greater than yourself, and Christ will bring us salvation. The letter of the Law kills, but the spirit of the law brings life. Fortunately we've been learning to follow the spirit. Yep.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:01 am
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:37 am
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As everyone else has basicly already stated is that the Bible is written by man but inspired by god. Many people, even I at points took the bible in the wrong ways when first getting to know it. Many points in the bible are symbolic and not meant literally. Others are meant straight out and as one starting into the christian religion it was very hard for me to differenciate. I found things overdramatic, some appauling, but in later realization and context shift I was able to see it for what it really is, gods word. Even in life god is never straightforward with us. Many time the problem with the bible, and the reason for denominations are the interpretations of the bible and its meaning. Sometimes you have to wander who, if anyone, is actually right in the interpretations. It is also correct in how many times the bible has been translated and rewritten to better fit into the way we speak today. There are so many different versions of the bible it astonishes me, while each one contains basicly the same information it makes you wonder just how much was actually changed, added, or taken away. After all Proverbs 30: 5-6 states: “Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.” So the question is just what are we reading?
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