... Odet's September Birthday Bash Unedited Pony Breedings ... Starts: Now Cert requests must be made before: Saturday September 11th, 2021 Ends: Sunday September 12th at 11:59 PM EST
... Slots ... Rolled: 2 CC: Unknown
... About These Slots ...
These breedings and mocks count for September and the slots are Unedited. Edited couples are welcome to join and I will do my best to use splicing to mimic edited items. Twists are not guaranteed, nor are you required to have them. Mutations will be uncommon and obviously completely unedited. Pregnant stages are offered for traditional couples.
These are open to all types of love! Traditional relationships, same sex couples, poly groups, and Soq paired with a different size Soq. Only things not aloud are Soq x familiar pairs and familiar x familiar pairs.
Life is catching up with me and I will be coloring slowly. It might be a month or it might be six. Please keep that in mind when entering.
... Rules ...
• Please post all questions and concerns in your post -- If you have a question please quote me in your post, so others can see your question and my answer. I often times get 5 messages all with the same question or comment. Pm's, quotes and other messages will not be responded to outside this manor. For more general questions please post in the Ask-the-Staff section of discord. • Post certed Soq -- I like seeing the Pony without having to click every link so please post the image of the cert (It must be the certed image). If your Soq hasn't been certed yet please post a small uncert image and a link to the cert request. Cert requests must be from before the start of these slots! • Names! -- Please provide full names for both the Soqs entered and their owners • Header! -- Read the top of the form and copy and paste any necessary headers (poly group, LL counter, good for all couples twist form) • Forms -- Please fill out the form completely and correctly. If I manage to spot something wrong I will point it out and you can edit your post. • Editing forms/posts -- I will not be making the list until these close, so please edit your post up till I lock the thread. I prefer not to have posts voided and new posts made; this makes more work for me and that's usually where I mess things up. So make it easy on me and edit to your hearts content. • Mistakes? -- If you need to fix something (be it by my request or your own) feel free to edit your post till I lock the thread! Once the thread is locked for list making you will be unable to edit. This may be right after it closes or a few hours later, so long as it's not locked edit away. All posts must be time stamped before the cut off time. • Be Nice! -- It's my favorite rule after all. • Pay what you want slots. No pay is okay. • You may post up to five pairs per post. You may post less, but not more. A soquili may be involved in multiple pairs and owners are still capped at two breeding wins per month. • This breeding will add to only one pair's LL counter in your post. Please use the applicable modifier if you want this breeding to count for one of your posted pair's LL counter. You may have multiple pairs have their LL counter added to, so long as only one pair per persons post has an LL counter. A pair may only have its LL counter added to once; if the LL modifier is used on the same pair multiple times, it will only count once. So communicate with your breeding partner. • You may only win two Soq breedings per month total -- (CC or raffled breeding slots. Bribes do not count). If someone wins a breeding raffle slot, then they may only be rolled once during these slots.
... REMINDERS ...
Please make sure and read through the Soq breeding information Thead before entering. Failure to do so may result in disqualification. I am not obligated to inform you if you have broken a rule.
BREEDING AND PERMISSIONS
It is required for both owners to post permission for the breeding in the MATES AND PERMISSION THREAD prior to the close of the raffle in order to be eligible for raffles.
UNLESS BOTH PARTIES HAVE POSTED PERMISSION IN THE PERMISSION THREAD (not this one, but the permission thread) BY THE TIME THE RAFFLE CLOSES, THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE RAFFLE AND WILL BE REMOVED. This also includes co-owners; if you co-own a soquili and your agreement involves agreeing on mates or breeding, BOTH co-owners have to have posted permission.
CO-OWNERSHIP
If one of the co-owners of a Soq in a pairing is NOT getting baskets from the breeding, please put the co-ownership agreement link in the form in the appropriate place and say who does or does not have breeding rights. We will assume that any pairing submitted without a form counts the breeding toward ALL co-owners. If it's not in the co-ownership agreement, the co-owner forfeiting will need to post here saying as much.
Remember guys, if an owner has no rights to this breeding it MEANS NO RIGHTS. Aka, you cannot gift nor co-own a basket with the person with no rights.
... Samples ... Newest ... (These are all unedited) ... Oldest
[b]Username:[/b] [please put your full username here] [Place cool down form here if you're on pony breeding cool down for February] [Place Low Luck Counter here] [Place your twist forms here if using one for all your couples or delete this and place them near the top of each individual form.]
[quote="Pair 1"]Place Form here[/quote] [quote="Pair 2"]Place Form here or delete if unused[/quote] [quote="Pair 3"]Place Form here or delete if unused[/quote] [quote="Pair 4"]Place Form here or delete if unused[/quote] [quote="Pair 5"]Place Form here or delete if unused[/quote]
Low Luck Counter Only one pairing per post will count towards low luck for this breeding type. Choose wisely.
[size=18][color=goldenrod][b]I'm counting (parent 1) x (parent 2) towards low luck![/b][/color][/size]
Cooldown Use this if you have already won a pony breeding for February or plan on one being purchased with SC in February.
[color=red][b]I'm on cool down and can only win 1 this month![/b][/color]
I've got a question Please post all questions or concerns in your entry post and quote me or in ask the staff on the discord server. You can grab this code for quick and easy use or make your own, just don't forget to quote me. I'll respond in your post and quote you back. Makes all questions public and a little less answering the same question multiple times..
*Insert question here* 02/??/2020 @ around X O'Clock [quote="odet amo"][/quote]
Optional Modifiers
Poly Group Please note that this should only be used if BOTH Soq trying for the breeding are part of the same poly-group! If one of the partners is not part of the poly-group, than it is considered a fling/surrogate and this heading should not be used! Please place this at the very top of your form.
[align=center][size=16][b][color=purple]There's More To Love! Poly-Group Here![/color][/b][/size] [b]Poly Group Agreement:[/b] Please post the agreement of ALL poly-members! Either the lifemate agreement of the group, or the non-lifemate poly-permission! [b]Please List All Eligible Poly-Group Members Certs:[/b] [url=CERT HERE]NAME[/url] [url=CERT HERE]NAME[/url][/align]
Growth Omission If you want to skip some of the early stages of the breeding, use this form! Make sure you've read all rules in the Growth Stage Omission Thread, and that both owners involved have posted for the correct permissions.
[size=16][b][color=#2E8B57]They Grow So Fast![/color][/b][/size] [b]Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:[/b] [url=]_____[/url] [b]Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with:[/b] Live Birth, Express Delivery, Gashapon
Twins & Triplets: If you want the possibility of twins or triplets (if applicable) please post this at the top of your form. This gives me the option of giving your pony a twin or triplet of the same gender with minimal color or edit changes. Saying yes does not guarantee you will get them, it simply give me the option. Only post if you want the option -- if you don't, ignore this modifier!
[size=16][color=red][b]Prepare for trouble . . .make that double! I want twins or triplets![/b][/color][/size] [b]Twins?:[/b] Yes/No [b]Triplets if Applicable?:[/b] Yes/No
Bald Ponies If one or both parents are bald - there is a chance at least one baby WILL be bald, too.
If you'd rather NOT have bald offspring, please post this.
[b][size=16][color=#DA9100]No Bald Children, please![/color][/size][/b]
Maybe you'd like some of your kids to be bald? This even gives parents with full manes of hair a chance to have bald kids too!
[b][size=16][color=#0048D9]We like them Bald![/color][/size][/b]
Bearded Ponies: While we have no issues with facial hair, if you don't fill this out we'll likely be a little more hesitant of adding it to even the sons. Please note: facial hair is NOT 'fluffy fur'. Examples: Facial Hair vs. Fluffy Fur
[size=16][color=brown][b]FACIAL HAIR[/b][/color][/size] [color=white]---[/color][b]Do you want the facial hair to be passed on[/b]: Y/N [color=white]---[/color][b]Just on Males? (If you say no, there's a chance of a bearded chick)[/b]: Y/N [color=white]---[/color][b]I love Fluffy fur. Do you? 83[/b]: (facial hair can be turned into fluff instead!)
Battle Damage If you have a parent with broken horns, battered wings, tattered feathers and membranes, and so forth, their kids will have a chance of getting them unless you post the following form. If your soquili has custom wings/horns/tails/etc. that are broken off or incomplete due to damage, the children will have the chance to have complete wings/horns/tails/etc. in the perceived 'pre-damaged' style of the parents.
[size=16][color=crimson][b]Let the children not carry the sins of the parents (Undamaged Wings/horns/tails/etc)[/b][/color][/size]
Close relations If you're going to mention Soquili that are not the parents/posted throwback relatives, use the following form.
[b]List of Connected Soquili[/b] [list] [*][url=]Soquili Name[/url] | Relation here [*][url=]Soquili Name[/url] | Relation here [/list]
Alternate images If your soquili has multiple versions, such as if they have a marking not visible as an adult but visible as a foal. If you have an elder, use the elder for the main image and put their previous form here if there to pass on previous genetics (like if they were a Draft or warhorse base/had leg up or leg down template etc). Since Soquili can Now ALSO be updated to show physical development of markings and edits with customs, you can show younger versions of them here as well regardless if they are an elder. (Note: this does not count reincarnations where they changed breed or altered drastically)
[b]Alternate Uncerts[/b] [list] [*][url=]Soquili Name[/url] | Stage of Development [*][url=]Soquili Name[/url] | Stage of Development [/list]
Charmed Walker Form addition If you have a Purewalker that has been charmed and want the resulting Skinwalker children to be charmed at birth, please use the following form.
[size=16][color=orange][b]Skinwalker: My Babies will live a Charmed Life....[/b][/color][/size]
Mock Twins
[size=16][color=teal][b]I'm seeing double 👀[/b][/color][/size] [i](Reminder: This counts towards your monthly limit of 1 custom a month and you don't get to choose which child(ren) we twin for you.)[/i] [b]Does owner of parent 1 want a mockchild?:[/b] Yes/No [b]Does owner of parent 2 want a mockchild?:[/b] Yes/No
[size=18][color=#A5DF00][b]TWISTED TUNNEL OF LOVE[/b][/color][/size]
Are you willing to risk getting Halloween Inspired Mutations?: Yes ~~~ Tentacles, Yes or No? 8V: Yes/No
For those worried about getting twists they wouldn't be happy with, please add the form below.
[size=18][color=#A5DF00][b]IT'S TOO SCARY MOMMY HOLD ME D8[/b][/color][/size] Mutations ~~~ Do you like undead/bone mutations?: ~~~ Do you like non-existent species tails?: ~~~ Do you like mutant feet?: ~~~ Do you like extra eyes/mouths/body horror?: ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get:
Themes ~~~ Do you like the use of blood?: ~~~ Do you like gore?: ~~~ Do you like bones as an accessory?: ~~~ Do you like demonic or occult imagery?: ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get: [/size]
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:38 pm
... Slots List ... This will be blank till slots close!
xxxPage 1 Calixita Yayoi nekofayre mistalina13 Andranis Artymus Mewsings of An Angel Hoshi Lockhart spelldancer (can only win 1) Fea Line
Page 2 `raze Uta magnadearel Ellanoire Moxxiie I Lady Kiya I Kiara Lime Malis Vitterfolk xKOVAKtheWOLFx Inari Miko Melomar Painted Moose Summer Raaven Keantha Fayt_of_Redemption
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: Kalona Devil Tail 1, Kalona Mare Ramhorns
Other Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: Fabio Mane & Tail, Romeo Mane & Tail, Neck Ruff, Elbow Fluff, Chopped Bangs, Pomp Bangs, Zypher Bangs, Dandelion Bangs, Business Bangs, Large Loose Braids, Small Loose Braids, Tucked Braids, Loose Tufts
Random Breeds (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): No Random Variants (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes
Throwbacks?: N/A ---Link to previous Generations: N/A
TWISTED TUNNEL OF LOVE
Are you willing to risk getting Halloween Inspired Mutations?: Yes ~~~ Tentacles, Yes or No? 8V: No
IT'S TOO SCARY MOMMY HOLD ME D8 Mutations ~~~ Do you like undead/bone mutations?: No ~~~ Do you like non-existent species tails?: No ~~~ Do you like mutant feet?: No ~~~ Do you like extra eyes/mouths/body horror?: No ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get: Please no mutations or non-kalona traits. I'd like their offpsring to remain pure kalona!
Themes ~~~ Do you like the use of blood?: Yes ~~~ Do you like gore?: No ~~~ Do you like bones as an accessory?: Yes ~~~ Do you like demonic or occult imagery?: Yes ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get: Saddles, costumes (fake wings, halo on a stick, etc), kitchy Halloween stuff, clowns, spiders/insects/bugs, veins and vein-like things (such as vines going in and out of the body, wrapped around is OK), zombies/rot/gore
Entry Code: Dioduru (Melomar) x Kiran ([nekofayre) size=16]Speedy Delivery! Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:Kiran x Diodaru Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with: Live Birth, Express Delivery, Gashapon
Speedy Delivery! Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:Bella X Franklin Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with: Live Birth, Express Delivery, Gashapon
Entry Code: Bella Lillian (nekofayre) x Franklin Orchid([nekofayre)
Link to Breeding Agreement:[ X ] ---Lifemate?: yes
RP Approved?: No
Low Luck?: No
list of attempts
Same Breed Variants: yes ---Templates to Avoid: none
Throwbacks?:yes ---Link to previous Generations: they are first gen
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mistalina13
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:57 pm
Username: mistalina13
I'm counting Allegro x Hope-chan towards low luck!
Pair 1
Allegro (mistalina13) x Orion (XxXPandamoniumXxX)
Allegro (mistalina13) x Orion (XxXPandamoniumXxX)
They Grow So Fast! Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:mistalina13 & Panda Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with: Live Birth / Express is a-okay!
Is it ok if I livestream the breeding?: Yes! -- If yes, can it be before the mare’s belly/The baskets are even dropped?: Yes~
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 1: Allegro / mistalina13 UNCERT
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 2: Orion / XxXPandamoniumXxX UNCERT
They Grow So Fast! Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:mistalina13 & Kara Asumie Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with: Live Birth / Express is a-okay!
Is it ok if I livestream the breeding?: Yes! -- If yes, can it be before the mare’s belly/The baskets are even dropped?: Yes~
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 1: Allegro / mistalina13 UNCERT
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 2: Hope-chan / Kara Asumie UNCERT
They Grow So Fast! Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:mistalina13 Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with: Express is a-okay!
There's More To Love! Poly-Group Here! Poly Group Agreement:[ X ] (LM agreement) Please List All Eligible Poly-Group Members Certs:Colonel, Irierath, Telathes
Is it ok if I livestream the breeding?: Yes! -- If yes, can it be before the mare’s belly/The baskets are even dropped?: Yes~
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 1: Telathes / mistalina13 UNCERT
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 2: Irierath / mistalina13 UNCERT
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: N/A
Other Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: N/A
Random Breeds (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): No Random Variants (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes
Throwbacks: Yes Link to previous Generations: Telathes is 1st Gen.
Irierath - Sister so you can make assumptions about parents.
Pair 5
Corbiniian "Corbin" (mistalina13) x Sharkbait (Summer Raaven)
Corbiniian "Corbin" (mistalina13) x Sharkbait (Summer Raaven)
Is it ok if I livestream the breeding?: Yes! -- If yes, can it be before the mare’s belly/The baskets are even dropped?: Yes~
They Grow So Fast! Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:Summer Raaven & mistalina13 Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with: Live Birth / Express is a-okay!
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 1: Corbiniian "Corbin" / mistalina13 UNCERT
Name, image, and owner(s) of parent 2: Sharkbait / Summer Raaven
Username: Andranis I'm counting Haze x Euphoria towards low luck! TWISTED TUNNEL OF LOVE
Are you willing to risk getting Halloween Inspired Mutations?: Yes ~~~ Tentacles, Yes or No? 8V: Yes
IT'S TOO SCARY MOMMY HOLD ME D8 Mutations ~~~ Do you like undead/bone mutations?: Yes ~~~ Do you like non-existent species tails?: Yes ~~~ Do you like mutant feet?: Yes ~~~ Do you like extra eyes/mouths/body horror?: To a certain point ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get: No holes, no slime/mucus
Themes ~~~ Do you like the use of blood?: Yes ~~~ Do you like gore?: Yes ~~~ Do you like bones as an accessory?: Yes ~~~ Do you like demonic or occult imagery?: Yes ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get: No holes, no slime/mucus
Same Breed Variants: Yes ---Templates to Avoid: Eagle wings
Throwbacks?: Yes ---Link to previous Generations: N/A, both Gen 1
Pair 4
I'm seeing double 👀 (Reminder: This counts towards your monthly limit of 1 custom a month and you don't get to choose which child(ren) we twin for you.) Does owner of parent 1 want a mockchild?: Yes Does owner of parent 2 want a mockchild?: Yes Entry Code:
Brightshadow (Artymus) x Kuraokami (Kaya Wolf Moon)
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): CC ---Templates to Avoid: N/A
Other Variants (Stock Templates Only): CC ---Templates to Avoid: N/A
Random Breeds (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Fits w/ fam Random Variants (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Fits w/ fam
Throwbacks?: Yes! ---Link to previous Generations: N/A
Pair 3
[b]Calliopi ( Moxxiie ) x Tyger ( Mewsings of An Angel )[/b]
[ TWISTED TUNNEL OF LOVE
Are you willing to risk getting Halloween Inspired Mutations?: Yes ~~~ Tentacles, Yes or No? 8V: Yes
List 3 phobias you personally have and thus do not want added to the Children: Spiders/bugs/insects (flutter wings and non-beetle antennae are fine), veins and vein-like things (such as vines going in and out of the body), pus/ooze/sores/other gross growths
IT'S TOO SCARY MOMMY HOLD ME D8 Mutations ~~~ Do you like undead/bone mutations?: Bone yes, undead no ~~~ Do you like non-existent species tails?: Yes ~~~ Do you like mutant feet?: Yes ~~~ Do you like extra eyes/mouths/body horror?: Yes ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get: Bulging eyeballs, infections, fungus
Themes ~~~ Do you like the use of blood?: Yes ~~~ Do you like gore?: Just no internal organs hanging out or visible, most everything else is fine ~~~ Do you like bones as an accessory?: Yes ~~~ Do you like demonic or occult imagery?: Yes ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get: kiddy Halloween stuff, candy, clowns, dolls, puppets
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: Same Breed Variants: Yes ---Templates to Avoid: No Baldness or the old large braid or old tiny braids. Newer and spliced are loved
Are you willing to risk getting Halloween Inspired Mutations?: Yes ~~~ Tentacles, Yes or No? 8V: No
IT'S TOO SCARY MOMMY HOLD ME D8 Mutations ~~~ Do you like undead/bone mutations?: No ~~~ Do you like non-existent species tails?: Yes ~~~ Do you like mutant feet?: Yea ~~~ Do you like extra eyes/mouths/body horror?: No ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get:
Themes ~~~ Do you like the use of blood?: Yes ~~~ Do you like gore?: No ~~~ Do you like bones as an accessory?: Yes ~~~ Do you like demonic or occult imagery?: Yes ~~~ Additional things you do not want to get:
Pair 1
Is it ok to livestream the breeding?: Yes
Vanariel (Ice_Dragon_Demon) x Sarathiel (Hoshi Lockhart)
I'm counting Yoko Lyrea x N'Maeune towards low luck! TWISTED TUNNEL OF LOVE
Are you willing to risk getting Halloween Inspired Mutations?: Yes ~~~ Tentacles, Yes or No? 8V: YES
Pair 1
Is it ok to livestream the breeding?: Yes
I'm seeing double 👀 (Reminder: This counts towards your monthly limit of 1 custom a month and you don't get to choose which child(ren) we twin for you.) Does owner of parent 1 want a mockchild?: Yes Does owner of parent 2 want a mockchild?: Yes
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: n/a
Other Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: n/a
Random Breeds (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes Random Variants (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes
Throwbacks?: Yes ---Link to previous Generations: Both 1st gen
Pair 2
Is it ok to livestream the breeding?: Yes
Entry Code:
Alkiear (Fea Line) x Lullaby (Fea Line)
I'm seeing double 👀 (Reminder: This counts towards your monthly limit of 1 custom a month and you don't get to choose which child(ren) we twin for you.) Does owner of parent 1 want a mockchild?: Yes
Link to Breeding Agreement: Both mine ---Lifemate?: Yes
RP Approved?: No
Low Luck?: No
list of attempts
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: n/a
Other Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: n/a
Random Breeds (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes Random Variants (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes
Throwbacks?: Yes ---Link to previous Generations: Both 1st gen
Pair 3
Is it ok to livestream the breeding?: Yes
I'm seeing double 👀 (Reminder: This counts towards your monthly limit of 1 custom a month and you don't get to choose which child(ren) we twin for you.) Does owner of parent 1 want a mockchild?: Yes Does owner of parent 2 want a mockchild?: Yes
They Grow So Fast! Link(s) to Ponies/pairing Omission Form:Here Omission style(s) I am/we are okay with: Any
No Bald Children, please!
Entry Code:
Yoko Lyrae ( FrostyPeaches ) x N'Maeune ( Fea Line )
Link to Breeding Agreement:[ Over here ] ---Lifemate?: No
RP Approved?: No
Low Luck?: No
oops not filled out... this is recorded in teepee. will copy over sometime when it get's closer to LL...
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): CC ---Templates to Avoid: Bald ponies hairstyle
Other Variants (Stock Templates Only): CC ---Templates to Avoid: Bald ponies hairstyle
Random Breeds (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): CC Random Variants (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): CC
Throwbacks?: Yes ---Link to previous Generations: Both are Gen 1, have fun < 3
Pair 4
Is it ok to livestream the breeding?: Yes
Entry Code:
Ellianthia (Fea Line) x Xephiran (Fea Line)
I'm seeing double 👀 (Reminder: This counts towards your monthly limit of 1 custom a month and you don't get to choose which child(ren) we twin for you.) Does owner of parent 1 want a mockchild?: Yes
Link to Breeding Agreement: Both mine ---Lifemate?: Yes
RP Approved?: /No
Low Luck?: No
list of attempts
Breed Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: n/a
Other Variants (Stock Templates Only): Yes ---Templates to Avoid: n/a
Random Breeds (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes Random Variants (1st Gen Throwbacks Only): Yes
Throwbacks?: Yes ---Link to previous Generations: Both 1st gen
Pair 5
Is it ok to livestream the breeding?: Yes
Entry Code:
Absolut Amore (Strawberri Stardust) x Khloe Rose (Fea Line)
I'm seeing double 👀 (Reminder: This counts towards your monthly limit of 1 custom a month and you don't get to choose which child(ren) we twin for you.) Does owner of parent 1 want a mockchild?: Yes Does owner of parent 2 want a mockchild?: Yes
