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Do you think a Kenshin who never became hitokiri would be very different?
Yes, after all he wouldn't have the heavy burden of guilt on his shoulders.
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No, I think people's basic programming doesn't change, so he would be mostly the same
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I think he'd be different because he wouldn't be a kick-butt swordsman!
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Akira_Hoshino

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:15 pm


... would he be much different?

I really can't decide. On the one hand, Kenshin's basic personality doesn't change from the time he is a child to a hitokiri to a rurouni. He has strong, firm beliefs in right and wrong, has a tender heart and is compassionate towards everyone. He believes everyone's life is worth something and sticks to that his whole life.

However, because at 13 he joins the Ishin Shishi and becomes Hitokiri, he loses the ability to believe in his own self worth because he commits the very acts he believes are most despicable. Even though as a rurouni he forgives others for making the same acts, he can't forgive himself. Actually, that's almost a little egotistical... it's okay if someone else does it, but he should know better. XD I'm sure Kenshin doesn't think of it that way, but after a while of watching him wallow one starts to think, "Darling, you didn't do anything wrong. You were living life the best way you could at the time. What more can anyone ask of you?"

But, if Kenshin had never become Hitokiri, had never met Seijuurou Hiko, had never lost his parents, and instead had grown up presumably on a farm with his happy family, in what ways would he be different?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:05 am


I don't think he would be the same person, really.. ^^,

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:13 pm


If he'd never gone through any of the tragic stuff (his parents' death, enslavement, etc.) he would've just been a peaceful farmer, husband and father till his death.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:27 pm


True, but you're only considering the physical aspects of his life. But how about his personality? The way he treats people? The way he thinks of himself? Would that change much? Would it be a drastic change, or subtle?

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TheIllustriousBlueJay

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:10 pm


I think that if he wasn't a Hitokiri, he would have still gotten himself involved in the revolution. Maybe he might have even the person who hires Makoto Shishio?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:40 pm


...um he would be one odd looking red head walking around in japan lol. I never really thought about it though, i agree with the person who said he would be a farmer and such


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Ankha

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:21 am


You have very good arguements for both sides of the story, Akira_Hoshino. And like you said, it is very hard to decide...

Reading your other threads and posts makes me think that you are a psycologist, deep analyzing Kenshin so well ^^ (If you're not, maybe you should become one? LOL)

Anyway, I know that I am a very different person now than I was, say, ten years ago. Being treated badly made me realize the importance of treating others with kindness, understanding and respect. Because of things in my past, I could never (and have never) harmed a person.
What I'm trying to say is that Kenshin must have changed because of his past. A quiet happy life on the countryside with his family is much different from a life of a hitokiri with no one to love him.
Still, even as a hitokiri, Kenshin never lost respect for certain things, just like you said.

But I think the answer to you question is, that YES Kenshin has changed because of his past. He is the same person in heart, but different in mind.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:28 pm


If was never Hitokiri he wouldn't be haunted by his past,and begin to wander...so he would never brecome Rurouni and probably never meet anyone in the gang...no Saito,or sanosuke or even Kauro.
That would really really suck.

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Silverotter107

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:51 pm


Wow, that's a really good question.

Well, the question technically is asking if he was never 'hitokiri'. Who's to say he still didn't take part in the war? Maybe something completely different happened to him, and he never wandered, or took a seat in the government instead. It's a good question, because there are so many things that could have lead him not to be a hitokiri. If he never learned swords, he'd be a farmer. If he obeyed his swordsmaster and didn't take part in the war, he wouldn't be a hitokiri, but a kick-a** swordsman with a bad past. But would he be driven enough to wander then?

I think he'd be different in the fact he'd be more naive and ignorant and more black and white in areas that involve killing. He'd probably be quiet, happy, and a lot more unruley tho than he is now (I doubt he'd be doing laundry and grocery shopping xd ). But empty inside because he knows there's more out there, and he never goes wandering, so he never knows what it is.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:25 pm


I think he would be very, very dead. How would he able to live through the incident where everyone, except for him, was killed, and then Hiko came to save him?

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Chaos_The_Chosen_One

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:54 am


He wouldn't be the funny clown that I love him for. And it's not a gay love, it's a "Man this guy is totally awsome I wish I was just like him!" love. stare Anyways. His clumzyness is a disguise to hide who he really is, the most kick-a** swordsman in his anime, next to his master. If he wasn't a swordsman, he'd probably have a dull, farming life.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:21 am


If he wasn't a Hitokiri, he would never have so much guilt and he would never feel the need to repent so much. And sometimes I think he would not even be the kind person he is if he wasn't a hitokiri. Because of what he did as a hitokiri he became kind hearted and wanted to repent by doing good. He would be a very different person in total really...he would still have the sword skills, but I don't kow about his charactre, I guess he would be just like everyone else. Not so kindhearted and not so evil.

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Blood_Covered_Pheonix

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:08 pm


If he never became a Hitokiri.He would have never had become Ruroni.Therefore he wouldn't have met Kouru,Yahiko,Sano,and Megumi.Kouru's dojo would be empty.Yahiko would still be a pickpocket.Sano would still be Zanza, fighter for higher.Megumi would ethier be dead, or making opiom while plotting to kill Konriu and herself.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:15 pm


he'd be weak! crying

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samuraichikX

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:10 pm


if he had never become one he would most definately be a different person, especially if he was never sold into slavery. i mean regardless of if he left hiko or not he would have become a swordsman regardless.
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