Just because you don't belive in God or Jesus doesn't mean..

[KangheadSaysHi]

Just because you don't belive in God or Jesus doesn't mean you worship
in Satan, or the devil.

If you didn't belive in God, and Jesus, Satan and the Devil is most likely to not exist.


Also, wearing black doesn't mean you worship the devil, that you're goth, or gothic.

Goth. n.
A member of a Germanic people who invaded the Roman Empire in the early centuries of the Christian era.

Gothic. adj.
Of or relating to the Goths or their language  

[Phaeton]

There is no Satan. People invented the big red donkey devil man to scare little children into staying awake in church. stare  

[Neztnerol]

The word goth/gothic has other meanings today as the language always evolves. So saying that it's only to do with German people is wrong.

And Gothic is also a style of building. Not just what you posted  

[CainZeros]

There is no Satan. Christians just needed a villain to oppose their hero. And if he does exist why did he waste his time "tempting saviors" when he could have been raising hell on earth?  

[The Viscount]

Satan was actually a figure that was invented quite a bit later in Christian theology than most Christians even know. sweatdrop His myths were borrowed slowly over the years, from many different mythic cycles in the Middle East. He didn't even have a horns or tail until Christianity came to Europe. x.x;  

[TenSin]

This conversation changed topics pretty quickly...
From
"Just because you don't belive in God or Jesus doesn't mean you worship
in Satan, or the devil. "

To
"There is no Satan."  

[Tierney Sloan]

I do not believe in the Christian sense of God, nor do I believe in the devil. I do not believe in organised relegion, period. It is too corrupted, been passed through too many hands.  

[PickleMePurple]

shirokitsune

Satan was actually a figure that was invented quite a bit later in Christian theology than most Christians even know. sweatdrop His myths were borrowed slowly over the years, from many different mythic cycles in the Middle East. He didn't even have a horns or tail until Christianity came to Europe. x.x;

I don't know about other Christians, but I think the horn and tails version is mostly commercial (i.e. for entertainment purposes). I don't think he has horns and tail any more than I think Santa Clause is real.

As to the first post, you are correct. It is ignorant of people to think that just because you're not Christian you worship the devil. People of the Wiccan persuasion get this the most, because people consider it witchcraft which in old times was very heavily associated with the devil, but Wiccans don't believe there is a Satan...how can they worship him?  

[CainZeros]

TenSin

This conversation changed topics pretty quickly...
From
"Just because you don't belive in God or Jesus doesn't mean you worship
in Satan, or the devil. "

To
"There is no Satan."

Personal opinions. They're bound to show up in any discussion. If they didn't it'd be pretty bland.  

[Sitting On Cloud 9]

I agree with PickleMePurple. The horn and tails version of the Devil is commercial. This is coming from my knowledge of the fact that originally before "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earths" the Devil was basically God's right hand man until one day the Devil decided that he was far greater and more powerful than God himself. At this time God didn’t enjoy the idea (come on its like a student telling there teacher that there smarter and have more control over the class room) and thus sending the Devil into Hell.

The Devil can not bring all Hell on Earth, he is not powerful enough, and there are to many Christians to let it happen. He tries to corrupt every one's minds but can only get some. He gets us all at some point or another but there are some who ask for forgiveness from God and from there the sins are forgiven and are not there any more. (basically)

And yes I am a STRONG Christian, these are my beliefs and that of which I have been taught in church.  

[Yoru Kurosawa]

Mikki, your siggy says you're wicked though... xd I'm joking. *hugs* I don't think you're evil.

PickleMePurple, thank you, I love you... I'm Wiccan, and I've already been accused of being a Satanist... and the worse thing about that is that I started yelling about it IN A CLASSROOM, and no one did a goddamn thing...

IWYD... thank you for startin' this and what you said in your opening posts. I had those misconceptions... stare  

[The Viscount]

@Pickle - Well, it's about commercialism now, maybe, but that is not how it started. You will notice in medieval woodcuts that Satan is often depicted as having a horns and a tail. So it's not a modern commercial thing. I said he was not shown as having these things before Christianity entered Europe because, as you've likely heard "the Gods of the old religion became the devils of the new".

Gods like Pan, Cernnonous, and Greek spirits of the woods were "borrowed" and used as imagery for Satan over the course of many years. I don't think he has horns and a tail, or that he even exists except in the minds of those who believe that he does. It is for some people necessary to have some kind of figure embodying evil, but I've never had that need. I don't see things as being good or evil. There is a spectrum of colors in the world and some things that are good to some might be bad to another.

I've never understood the logic of Satan and hell and so forth. xD If the Christian God is all-powerful, than couldn't he have stopped Satan from falling in the first place [and therefore causing humans to fall as well]? And in the Bible it says that Satan takes his orders from God still, and that God is stronger than he is. So why is God allowing Satan and Hell to exist, when God is also supposed to be All-Forgiving and Merciful? I might add that in Christian mythology, that when you go to Hell, you're there forever. So, apparently, if you do bad things in this one short small human life, you get sent to an eternity of torture and horrific agony? Isn't that a little unbalanced? xD And isn't that a little evil and "Satanic" of God to allow this to happen?

Anyway I don't mean to offend. This is just my fingers typing out my thoughts as they come. Don't let yourself get offended. <3333  

[Mr Sand man]

PickleMePurple

shirokitsune

Satan was actually a figure that was invented quite a bit later in Christian theology than most Christians even know. sweatdrop His myths were borrowed slowly over the years, from many different mythic cycles in the Middle East. He didn't even have a horns or tail until Christianity came to Europe. x.x;

I don't know about other Christians, but I think the horn and tails version is mostly commercial (i.e. for entertainment purposes). I don't think he has horns and tail any more than I think Santa Clause is real.

As to the first post, you are correct. It is ignorant of people to think that just because you're not Christian you worship the devil. People of the Wiccan persuasion get this the most, because people consider it witchcraft which in old times was very heavily associated with the devil, but Wiccans don't believe there is a Satan...how can they worship him?

In a book I read it said that the devil's demons took possession of a human telling these people that they could have power if they followed satan if they agreed they got powers if they didn't they would stay in being possessed by the demon until they either went mad or they died.