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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:33 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:19 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:58 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:45 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:05 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:30 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:39 pm
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DR490N i would agree wholeheartedly with you. i have friends who are gay or bisexual, and may be bisexual myself(still trying to sort that one out in my head). also, my view is that this so called god(whose true name is Jehovah according ot the bible, but has been simply refeered to as "the god", "our god" and later simply "god", likely part of the efforts to end worship of pagan gods) is termed a "loving god". if this god is love, then why are his followers so hateful towards everyone else? why does his so called 'word' state that witches are supposed to be burned, one of the most painful ways to die? the answer? christians are stupid and ignorant. their text is full of flaws, their logic even more flawed. there is nothing wrong with gays, nothing wrong with loving someone. you choose your path in life. thats life. i coudl say more but if i do i'll start ranting more.
It itsn't the word of god that decreed the bit about witches; that was a "mistranslation" that fit into the witch hysteria of the middle ages; originally, it read "Thou shalt not suffer a poisoner to live", and it doesn't specify how you had to kill them. It was people who did that. Fearful and most importantly ignorant people, and ignorance isn't reserved to anyone specific religion. Not all Christians are hateful, and blanket statments like you keep posting demonstrate the same kind of ignorance and inteloerance. Watch it.
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:29 pm
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DR490N if this god is love, then why are his followers so hateful towards everyone else? why does his so called 'word' state that witches are supposed to be burned, one of the most painful ways to die? the answer? christians are stupid and ignorant. their text is full of flaws, their logic even more flawed.
Y'know, I hate to say it, but I'd take your views on this a lot more seriously if it weren't for the fact that your sig has an animated picture of two men gunning down another in the living room. Christianity has its flaws, to be sure, and there are some people who seem to take those aspects of the religion and make them even more problematic than they should be. However, spewing self-righteous venom at them for those tendencies toward violence and hatred while showcasing violent murder as light hearted humor is hypocritical, and makes it look like their every complaint against us Pagans is well demonstrated and justifiable.
On the original topic, I agree with Gypsy and Blindfaith. Unfortunately, I doubt very much that you're going to get through to him and the more you try to persuade him that a loving god wouldn't be putting him through the "test" he perceives here... the more likely he's going to be to decide that you're a part of that test. It's his decision, and he has a right to make it. wink And although it may pain us to see him put himself through what we percieve as unnatural and unnecessary, it may also be worth noting that he is obviously getting something out of it or he wouldn't hold onto it so devotedly. We might pray for him to find the path which is ultimately the most healthy one in his case, whatever that may be, but ultimately the decision of whether or not to break away from such thoroughly ingrained ways of thinking can only come from within him- no amount of logic can get through if you don't believe in it.
Remember, forcing him to accept his sexuality may be just as much an invasion of personal choice and freedoms as forcing him to deny it. My advice is to just be open-minded, give him your love, and let him be who he is.
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:45 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:01 am
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:01 pm
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