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StarrLightSinali

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:21 pm
Does it bother anyone else when people use 'affect' and 'effect' incorrectly?

I'm on my school newspaper staff and I see way too much of it. It drives me crazy.

Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun. People don't know that. And then, when I'm editing their papers and correcting it, they don't make the appropriate changes and it gets published incorrectly.

*sigh*  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:36 pm
YESH!! It drives me insane... -_-;; stressed -nods rapidly-  

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:14 pm
Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I was beginning to think that I was slightly insane for twitching every time I saw that. biggrin  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:20 pm
Actually, they're both both verbs and nouns.  

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:16 pm
...How so?

*wishes to be enlightened*

I've always thought that you used effect when speaking of a thing, and affect when speaking of what it does to a thing. Hence the verb and noun difference.  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:47 pm
effect - v. - to produce as an effect; bring about; accomplish; make happen

affect - n. -
  • Psychology. feeling or emotion.
  • Psychiatry. an expressed or observed emotional response: Restricted, flat, or blunted affect may be a symptom of mental illness, especially schizophrenia.
  • Obsolete. affection; passion; sensation; inclination; inward disposition or feeling.
 

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Angelic_Hobo

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:58 am
He's right but you've got to use the right word to make the sentence work correctly.

E.g. The effect caused him to turn mental.

This cannot be: the affect cased him to turn mental.  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:46 am
I always took it as Affect was to affect something. Hit something with a hammer, you affect with force?

Effect is the appearence of something?

*Wishes someone could clearly explain this to him*  

Marcus McFlufferson


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:49 am
Affect is the cause, effect is the result. 3nodding

On a side note, yay for school newspaper people! mrgreen  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:50 am
Effect: noun, Latin to Greek to French: the result of an action

Affect: verb, Latin to French to English: to alter something for better or for worse.

- Webster's Merriam Dictionary 1952  

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Marcus McFlufferson

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:51 am
DarkElf27
Affect is the cause, effect is the result. 3nodding

On a side note, yay for school newspaper people! mrgreen


That still doesn't make any sense gonk

saotomi5102
Effect: noun, Latin to Greek to French: the result of an action

Affect: verb, Latin to French to English: to alter something for better or for worse.

- Webster's Merriam Dictionary 1952


Or that gonk gonk

I think my brain refuses to react to the way of this particular grammar law..

Could someone put it into some dumbed down sentances for me?  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:51 am
Marcus McFlufferson
I always took it as Affect was to affect something. Hit something with a hammer, you affect with force?

Effect is the appearence of something?

*Wishes someone could clearly explain this to him*


In addition to the definitions I gave above, the more common ones can be gleaned from context:

If something is affected, there is an effect.  

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Marcus McFlufferson

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:52 am
Okay okay. Right. Imagine I'm a retard.

Go!  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:35 pm
affect: v. (af-FECT)- to alter something already in existance: Heat affects the speed of most chemical reactions.
n. (AF-fect)- psychology external display of emotion or mood: He was completely devoid of affect.

effect: v. (ef-FECT)- to bring something into existance: Heat can effect a change in the speed of most chemical reactions.
n. (ef-FECT)- the result of an action: The effects of Hurricane Katrina are still with us today.

Does anyone know which one is the word for small personal belongings? I think it's effect (pronounced EF-fect), but I'm not sure.  

Amphion


Demokritos

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:18 pm
This is probably the least thought of word that is mistaken in meaning. Their meanings are completely different, but the difference in the words themselves is negligible.  
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